A Tale of Two Bitcoins - A blog by Vinny Lingham

Confessions of a Core Supporter

I remember as a slightly younger Bitcoiner watching videos and eating up everything I could about the subject. There was Roger Ver and Charlie Shrem, a cast of long bearded geniuses who kept this magic money safe, and of course the mysterious creator Mr Nakamoto. Things were weird, and grand, just the way I like them.
I bought my first bitcoin after the gox collapse, then more and more. If Mt gox couldn't kill bitcoin I wanted in. I watched it go to 300, then to 500, and was thrilled. I found bitcoin. I subbed a bunch of tech nerds on twitter. I remained on the outside, but I was now part of the dream of decentralized currency. I placed a certain amount of blind faith in this new technology that I admittedly didn't fully understand, yet somehow believed in, hoping that one day it would change the world.
I soon became aware of forks, of factions, of discontent. I shrugged my shoulders. After all, I had long since learned that bitcoin was the honey badger and it would figure it out. It always does. I learned to laugh at "bitcoin is dead" headlines and learned that this was simply a cue to buy more. There was Hodl. There was, buy the dip. There was always that lame ass on reddit reminding nubes (in nasally tone I'm sure) to "never buy more than you can afford to lose". There was the cute roller coaster coin guy which seemed to be so often on a fun ride to the top. I was riding this thing to the top with that little guy. Life was good. I was invested far more than I could afford to lose and life was great that way!
But then the more I read, the more 'in the know' guys I followed on twitter, the more reddit posts I read, I learned I would be forced to pick sides in an ideological battle between two distinct sides. Let's call them the nerds, and the capitalists. Being an anarchist/libertarian and capitalist it might seem strange that I found myself quickly taking the sides of the nerds. But it was the nerds who were the ones who kept all this shit together. The code, the security, the teflon armor that kept governments and crony capitalists out of bitcoin and who ultimately kept that little roller coaster guy going up and up and up. Life was good in the hands of the nerds. I was officially a small blocker, and I stood behind my nerds. I resented those who called them neckbeards. I have a beard and that was mean. Sometimes I chimed in on reddit posts, mocked big blockers on twitter, and firmly planted my feet on the rock of 1mb blocks. I would not be moved.
Then the fork happened. I was happy to receive my dividend. I even rushed out to sell some of my coins and sold a few but my gut resisted selling all of them. Something stopped me. That something was the instinctual recognition of the echo chamber of the small block community. It was beginning to scare me. Was this really where the sharp money was? I was beginning to wonder. I was beginning to doubt.
There was also the fact that I simply couldn't get my head around bigger blocks meaning less fees for the miners yet somehow the biggest miner in the world was such a staunch advocate of bigger blocks, all while more and more people were pouring into mining. I heard about side chains and lighting network. Boy did that sound good! But where was it? Where is it? When will it be delivered? Why isn't this ready yet with all this congestion? Do we really have the best nerds working on this problem? It's been like 9 years. What's up with this?
The answers and future promises of core, I had to admit seemed a bit vague at best. Transactions were getting clogged. There would not be a day ever in the future that I would buy a coffee with my bitcoin (ok ok). But there would also never be a day that someone busting their hump washing our dishes in expensive restaurants would be able to send their bitcoin home to a family that could really use them. It was too expensive. And new leaders in the space like Ari Paul were touting $100 fees as a sign of huge success. Was this what I signed up for? Was this the face of decentralization and borderless money?
But you have to have faith in the nerds, right? After all, they're nerds! And they were the ones that got us here. Or were they? I started to notice a complete disrespect for the companies that helped bitcoin grow to what it had; there was Jeremy Allaire, Brian Armstrong, Eric Vorhees, Gavin Andreson and Vinny Lingham, all thrown UNDER the bus and mercilessly at that. Profits were suddenly bad. Growth bad. Low fees, yup-bad. Appreciation for the risk some of these early pioneers took was non existent. And this didn't sit well with me. Why were these nerds so angry? Where was the respect? Where was the appreciation? Where was the loyalty to the men that helped the little roller coaster guy go so high? Why did you so quickly renege on the NY agreement once you got what you wanted; segwit. Only dishonest pussies do that kind of thing. A bigger question started to emerge in my head: what had these small block nerds done to improve on Bitcoin that a slightly different alternative group of nerd couldn't have done? Why couldn't' we just go to 2mb blocks for the time being? What if the small block nerds were wrong? Is there a shortage of nerds in this world? Maybe. But maybe not.
I started to get back to my roots. To dig beneath the bullshit and take a shovel to dig through the propaganda, and it's deep in this war. There's a lot at stake here. If there's one thing I've learned in the years I've been an anarchist there's one rule I have which trumps them all: Never trust the popular narrative. Because it's usually dead wrong. And often, it's actually a well crafted lie. But here I was on the 'popular' side. Ut oh, not good. Had I been fooled?
Now I'm not saying I'm fully in the big block camp. If I have been brainwashed, then I'll admit it's going to take more time to deprogram myself and begin to see things more clearly. However, I am starting to see a bit more clearly. What I do know is this; Tone Vays the famous bitcoin tout said BCH was going to zero within a day. That never came close to happening. Stick to massage parlors Tone. Men I respect and look up to (in certain ways) like Roger Ver, John McAfee, Jeff Berwick - all men with a provable TRACK RECORD of defying the government in one way or another and the criminal records to prove it (good thing in my book), and many other freedom loving anarchist types are all behind Bitcoin Cash. The small block community foams at the mouth like a demon in first century Galillee when you mention the name Roger Ver. Hmmm. Maybe he really is Bitcoin Jesus! Miners who let's face it, love money, put up their capital to invest in many many millions want to see bitcoin cash succeed. Vinny Lingham was thrown to the dogs by a ruthless community, for urging people to have an open mind and getting one BTC call wrong. The whole thing has at minimum, put a bad taste in my mouth.
Then there's the fact that some of the main core developers work for a large insurance company's company called Blockstream. If you really believed in bitcoin, shouldn't you own enough to not have to work for someone? I don't work for anyone, and I'm not a neckbeard nerd. But even I figured that much out and got some bitcoins early enough that I don't have to punch any one else's time clock. And while I'm never one to shy away from conspiracies there is the fact that the CEO of the big insurance company; AXA (who owns Blockstream who employs heavy hitters from the nerd Core group) is none other than Henri de Castries, who just so happens to be the chairman of the Bilderberg Group. You might think I made that last one up. I didn't. This just smells bad to me. I think a lot of people on the nerd, Core, block stream, blah blah blah side might be, just might be getting DUPED.
So, in closing I would like to apologize to the community. You can see, I'm not that active here or in bitcoin, but I have taken some stabs and even trolled a few of you. Hey, please forgive me, I thought I was on the right side, but I'm not so certain any more. One thing I did do is load up on some bitcoin cash. I paid a premium for it, and maybe I'll live to regret it. But I'm throwing my hat in with the successful capitalists, the anarchists, and people who believed in bitcoin enough in the beginning to not only buy (and maybe mine some), but to invest their lives in the space, to put their money where their mouth and beliefs were, and not have to go get a job working for some Bilderberger clown. The clues and the truth are always there folks, but you do have to search them out for yourself and more importantly, T H I N K. Sure I'm a bit late to the party, and I'm still not sure BCH will become the 'real bitcoin', but I'm moving some of my most valuable chips to this side of the table. I sense a strong rising tide here. I also just sent 30k worth of BCH for 2 cents and it was on the exchange in like 3 minutes. That felt like the good ole days and that felt good! And then there's the fact that when it all comes down to it, and despite the attempted slander meme circulating on twitter, I rather enjoy a glass of wine one day with Roger Ver and Jeff Berwick, Calvin Ayre (and maybe even fake Satoshi) than have my picture taken outside a Chucky Cheese with a group of nerds with small blocks.
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November BTC Fork - The Facts

Update 2: THE NOVEMBER SEGWIT2X HARDFORK HAS NOW BEEN CANCELLED! :D
Update: Thank you for your appreciation on this article. I decided to publish it on Medium.  
You can find the article on this link.
 
Existing Article:
With less than a dozen days left before the SegWit2X fork, I thought I'd start gathering some facts before I start forming personal opinions and speculative conclusions. I refer to the SegWit1X chain as 1X and the SegWit2X chain as 2X for simplicity, and I have looked for very simple facts and safe assumptions. Here are the dots that I gathered:  
 
• Fork at Block 494,784. Approximate time = 16th of November - see Reference 6 for exact time.  
 
The New York Agreement: The NYA involved parties representing about 83% of the then hashing power who all agreed to both hardforks - one for SegWit and another for an increased block size of 2MB (2X) within 6 months of the former. Further details in reference 1.  
 
• It is safe to assume that miners will only mine the most profitable chain (possibly several chains in differing proportions).  
• If whales pump a single chain it will gain more value. If this happens, miners will be more inclined to mine that particular chain only. This will result in the other chain(s)potentially losing overall mining attractiveness.  
 
1X will continue to have a 1MB block and SegWit;  
2X will have a 2MB block and SegWit;  
Bitcoin Cash (Just for info right now) currently has an 8 MB block with NO SegWit;  
 
Current Price Status (Futures) on BitFinex: 2X/BTC = 0.17; 1X/BTC = 0.83  
 
Current Mining Status: 2X = Around 85% of blocks are signalling for 2X.  
It seems only a few mining pools including Slush Pool, F2Pool and Kano CKPool are not signalling Segwit2X. All Antpool (Jihan Wu) owned pools are signalling for Segwit2X and will likely continue to do so up to the fork. It is not clear if any other pools from the Segwit2X signalling group will change their minds in the meantime.  
 
Lower mining power chain: Likely to be 1X. Fees likely to be extremely high as not many miners. Difficulty adjustment could take a few weeks, if not months. Until then it will be very difficult to transfer funds. [It may be better to keep BTC on an exchange before fork, to ease liquidity cost/time if you want to sell either of the coins immediately]  
 
Double-spending: Miners (from 2X) will have an ability and incentive to double-spend on the minority chain (lower mining power chain). If you have huge mining power, you can allocate some of it to just double-spend on the minority chain. Some people will possibly lose confidence in the minority chain as a result.  
 
Replay-Protection: Neither 1X nor 2X currently have replay protection.  
 
Exchanges:
  1. Bitfinex: original chain is “BTC”, SegWit2x chain is “B2X”  
  2. BitMEX: Original chain is BTC  
  3. Bitstamp: Unknown  
  4. GDAX & Coinbase: hash power and market cap decides which chain is “BTC”  
  5. Kraken: Unknown  
  6. HitBTC: original chain is “BTC”, SegWit2x chain is “B2X”  
  7. CoinsBank: Original chain is BTC  
  8. CEX.IO: original chain is “BTC”, SegWit2x chain is “B2X”  
  9. Gemini: hash power decides which chain is “BTC”  
  10. Coinfloor: Unknown  
  11. BTCC (Updated on Twitter): BTCC will consider which of 1MB and 2MB to name as #bitcoin based on market feedback and adoption.  
Further details in reference 4.  
 
The OPINIONs section
Vinny Lingham's opinion: 2X will outcompete 1X.  
 
Enter Bitcoin Cash: A review by Ryan X. Charles who has incorporated some of Vinny Lingham's quotes, states the following:  
 
a. BCH is a fork of BTC with same PoW, but with improved Difficulty Adjustment Algorithm (DAA). BCH cannot die, but 1X and 2X could both die. If whales shift most of their holdings to BCH (or another coin), that would incentivise the miners to mine BCH (or another coin) instead of 1X and 2X. Both 1X and 2X would lose their mining power; however Core would release an emergency update to software adding DAA like BCH (or another coin). Thus, 1X would survive, and 2X (which might not get DAA) would die.  
 
b. If 2X continues to be the dominantly mined chain, 1X will be forced to launch an emergency update to their PoW with DAA. There could be fighting between the two chains, and as a result a struggle to become dominant potentially causing altcoins to flourish.  
 
My observations
BCH is upgrading their EDA (Emergency Difficulty Adjuster) on Nov 13. See website. This will lead to reduced volatility in BCH - likely making it more attractive to more long-term miners.  
 
Mining profitability: It is currently almost equally profitable to mine either BTC or BCH.  
 
• What to keep and eye on before the fork to judge yourself where the fate of BTC is heading.  
  1. Mining signalling distribution
  2. DAA: 1X or 2X software updates to implement Difficulty Adjustment Algorithms
  3. Futures price before fork
  4. Significant whale movement
 
References:  
  1. New York Agreement  
  2. Hashing Distribution  
  3. Ryan X. Charles's opinions  
  4. Exchange listings for both chains  
  5. Interview with Vinny Lingham  
  6. 2X Split Countdown
 
Update: Thank you for your appreciation on this article. I decided to publish it on Medium.  
You can find the article on this link.
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While everybody is closely watching South Korea, these are coins worth investing in. (imo)

  1. Vertcoin (VTC)
Vertcoin is a digital currency that can be sent between people over the internet. Vertcoin (VTC) stays true to the original vision of cryptocurrency: a financial system owned by its users, the people’s coin. Vertcoin is not controlled by large banks or mining hardware manufacturers and can be mined by anyone profitably. Fairly distributed without a premine, ICO or airdrop, Vertcoin is developed by community members working as volunteers and the project is wholly funded by donations. A finite resource similar to gold, you can rest assured that Vertcoin will keep your money safe from vested interests and ensure that transaction fees are proportionate and shared between a large number of miners. With Vertcoin, you can truly be your own bank. CHART
  1. Clams (CLAM)
CLAMs are a form of digital value, or currency, that is transferred, created, and verified by the collective effort of the computers running the CLAMs software. Similar to Bitcoin, the original technology on top of which CLAMs was created, this network follows a rigorous protocol to ensure that consensus and verification are maintained. CHART
  1. TIES Network (TIE)
Ties.Network is a business platform with for finding and establishing professional relationships based on irrefutable rating system and for transacting safe deals. Ties.Network provides all the benefits of well-known social business networks for the crypto-community complemented by strongest advantages of blockchain technology. This one is even not listed on tradingview and volumes just started raising. CHART
  1. Civic (CVC)
Civic (CVC) is a crypto token that is designed as an identity verification system. The idea is that anyone can use their Civic identity anywhere on the web to verify their details using blockchain technology. The project was led by Vinny Lingham, a well known figure within Bitcoin, and the Civic ICO was held in June 2017, raising $33 million in two days. Over 1 billion tokens were created. The token sale was intended to be as decentralized as possible, and resulted in 8,000 different individuals successfully purchasing Civic tokens. Civic’s uses include banks and utility companies who require some degree of identification of their users. The aim is to prevent identity fraud and to safeguard the data of users who are only required to enter their personal information once rather than at multiple sites on the web. CHART
  1. Spectrecoin (XSPEC)
Spectrecoin (XSPEC) is an innovative privacy focused cryptocurrency, featuring an energy-efficient proof-of-stake algorithm that provides rapid transaction confirmations, ring signatures for privacy and anonymity, and a fully integrated Tor+OBFS4 layer for IP obfuscation within the wallet. Spectrecoin is actively developed, with an ambitious roadmap that prioritises privacy, security, and true decentralisation with features such as default stealth addresses and stealth staking, and low-power mobile wallet staking. Although it nearly trippled during the last two months it's still rising. CHART
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November Fork - The Facts

Update: Thank you for your appreciation on this article. I decided to publish it on Medium.  
You can find the article on this link.
 
Existing Article:
With less than a dozen days left before the SegWit2X fork, I thought I'd start gathering some facts before I start forming personal opinions and speculative conclusions. I refer to the SegWit1X chain as 1X and the SegWit2X chain as 2X for simplicity, and I have looked for very simple facts and safe assumptions. Here are the dots that I gathered:  
 
• Fork at Block 494,784. Approximate date = 16th of November.  
 
The New York Agreement: The NYA involved parties representing about 83% of the then hashing power who all agreed to both hardforks - one for SegWit and another for an increased block size of 2MB (2X) within 6 months of the former. Further details in reference 1.  
 
• It is safe to assume that miners will only mine the most profitable chain (possibly several chains in differing proportions).  
• If whales pump a single chain it will gain more value. If this happens, miners will be more inclined to mine that particular chain only. This will result in the other chain(s)potentially losing overall mining attractiveness.  
 
1X will continue to have a 1MB block and SegWit;  
2X will have a 2MB block and SegWit;  
Bitcoin Cash (Just for info right now) currently has an 8 MB block with NO SegWit;  
 
Current Price Status (Futures) on BitFinex: 2X/BTC = 0.17; 1X/BTC = 0.83  
 
Current Mining Status: 2X = Around 85% of blocks are signalling for 2X.  
It seems only a few mining pools including Slush Pool, F2Pool and Kano CKPool are not signalling Segwit2X. All Antpool (Jihan Wu) owned pools are signalling for Segwit2X and will likely continue to do so up to the fork. It is not clear if any other pools from the Segwit2X signalling group will change their minds in the meantime.  
 
Lower mining power chain: Likely to be 1X. Fees likely to be extremely high as not many miners. Difficulty adjustment could take a few weeks, if not months. Until then it will be very difficult to transfer funds. [It may be better to keep BTC on an exchange before fork, to ease liquidity cost/time if you want to sell either of the coins immediately]  
 
Double-spending: Miners (from 2X) will have an ability and incentive to double-spend on the minority chain (lower mining power chain). If you have huge mining power, you can allocate some of it to just double-spend on the minority chain. Some people will possibly lose confidence in the minority chain as a result.  
 
Replay-Protection: Neither 1X nor 2X currently have replay protection.  
 
Exchanges:
  1. Bitfinex: original chain is “BTC”, SegWit2x chain is “B2X”  
  2. BitMEX: Original chain is BTC  
  3. Bitstamp: Unknown  
  4. GDAX & Coinbase: hash power and market cap decides which chain is “BTC”  
  5. Kraken: Unknown  
  6. HitBTC: original chain is “BTC”, SegWit2x chain is “B2X”  
  7. CoinsBank: Original chain is BTC  
  8. CEX.IO: original chain is “BTC”, SegWit2x chain is “B2X”  
  9. Gemini: hash power decides which chain is “BTC”  
  10. Coinfloor: Unknown  
  11. BTCC (Updated on Twitter): BTCC will consider which of 1MB and 2MB to name as #bitcoin based on market feedback and adoption.  
Further details in reference 4.  
 
The opinion section
Vinny Lingham's opinion: 2X will outcompete 1X.  
 
Enter Bitcoin Cash: A review by Ryan X. Charles who has incorporated some of Vinny Lingham's quotes, states the following:  
 
a. BCH is a fork of BTC with same PoW, but with improved Difficulty Adjustment Algorithm (DAA). BCH cannot die, but 1X and 2X could both die. If whales shift most of their holdings to BCH (or another coin), that would incentivise the miners to mine BCH (or another coin) instead of 1X and 2X. Both 1X and 2X would lose their mining power; however Core would release an emergency update to software adding DAA like BCH (or another coin). Thus, 1X would survive, and 2X (which might not get DAA) would die.  
 
b. If 2X continues to be the dominantly mined chain, 1X will be forced to launch an emergency update to their PoW with DAA. There could be fighting between the two chains, and as a result a struggle to become dominant potentially causing altcoins to flourish.  
 
My observations
BCH is upgrading their EDA (Emergency Difficulty Adjuster) on Nov 13. See website. This will lead to reduced volatility in BCH - likely making it more attractive to more long-term miners.  
 
Mining profitability: It is currently almost equally profitable to mine either BTC or BCH.  
 
• What to keep and eye on before the fork to judge yourself where the fate of BTC is heading.  
  1. Mining signalling distribution
  2. DAA: 1X or 2X software updates to implement Difficulty Adjustment Algorithms
  3. Futures price before fork
  4. Significant whale movement
 
References:  
  1. New York Agreement  
  2. Hashing Distribution  
  3. Ryan X. Charles's opinions  
  4. Exchange listings for both chains  
  5. Interview with Vinny Lingham  
 
Update:
I recommend this article by a friend of mine who has been exploring various outcomes and their likelihood.  
Stay tuned for more content in the coming days.
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Predicting the Outcome of the November Bitcoin Fork

On approximately November 18, Bitcoin will split into two chains: Segwit1x and Segwit2x. Because these chains share the same proof-of-work function (PoW) and neither change the difficulty adjustment algorithm (DAA), it is unlikely that both will survive simultaneously.
A complicating factor is the existence of Bitcoin Cash, a fork of Bitcoin which shares the same PoW but has in addition an improved DAA that ensures it can adjust downward in difficulty rapidly as needed in the event of miner evacuation, keeping its block interval at approximately 10 minutes on average. Bitcoin Cash cannot die, but Segwit1x and Segwit2x can both die.
These are the possible scenarios that may unfold starting November 18:
Scenario 1: The Flippening
Bitcoin Cash becomes the dominant chain measured by total PoW, Segwit1x survives with an "emergency hard fork" to a new PoW function or DAA, and Segwit2x dies.
This scenario is widely ignored or ridiculed in the Bitcoin community which is why the current price of Bitcoin is more than ten times the price of Bitcoin Cash. However, this scenario is actually the most likely due to the spectacular gains to be made by miners, speculators and businesses who game this scenario. Anyone who is in a position to cause the flippening can increase their money 10-fold in a month, followed by far higher long-term gains due to the ability of Bitcoin Cash to scale to a global audience.
If this scenario plays out, it will probably happen as follows:
Whales will buy Bitcoin Cash cheap and sell Bitcoin at its all-time highs in preparation for the flippening. Then by leveraging huge amounts of capital, whales will push the price of Bitcoin Cash up and the price of Bitcoin down at approximately the same time as the split between Segwit1x and Segwit2x.
Miners will now be incentivized to switch from Segwit1x/Segwit2x to Bitcoin Cash due to improved profitability, while Segwit1x and Segwit2x both struggle on suddenly far lower mining power. Miners themselves may also be whales and will deliberately cause the incentives to shift for their own double gain.
Segwit2x dies to due no ability to change the PoW or DAA (since that's not a part of the New York Agreement (NYA)). Segwit1x changes its PoW and survives as an altcoin branded as "Bitcoin". Many in the Segwit1x community are already comfortable with this possibility, and more certainly will be if all of their value is threatened with destruction otherwise. Over some period of time, Bitcoin Cash achieves status as the longest chain as measured by total PoW and some exchanges and businesses now regard it as being "Bitcoin".
Scenario 2: Segwit2x wins
Segwit2x becomes the dominant chain measured by total PoW, Segwit1x changes its PoW, and Bitcoin Cash survives. This is the second most likely scenario due to the fact that a vast majority of miners and a majority of businesses have committed to Segwit2x as part of the NYA. However, this scenario is strictly less likely than the above due to the lesser gains to be made. No one can multiply their value by 10-fold in a short period of time in this scenario. And the long-term future is likely to continue to have infighting, high fees, and loss of market share to altcoins - it's better for business if Bitcoin Cash wins.
Note that, even if Segwit1x has a higher price on exchanges at the time of the fork, that does not help Segwit1x much if miners stick to their agreement and continue to mine Segwit2x. See Vinny Lingham's theory about how the minority chain cannot have a higher value.
In this scenario, similar to the above, it is most likely Segwit1x will change its PoW and become an altcoin in order to ensure its chain survives.
Scenario 3: Segwit1x wins
Segwit1x becomes the dominant chain measured by total PoW, Segwit2x dies, and Bitcoin Cash survives. If the movement from the Segwit1x community is successful, Segwit2x will be prevented from occurring due to the community uprising. This scenario is less likely than the above two scenarios due to the lack of commitment from miners to mine the Segwit1x chain. Segwit1x will probably not survive on ~10% of mining power due to excessively long block times for several months. Trolling on social media is not a substitute for mining power.
In this scenario, Segwit2x completely dies as no parties in the NYA agreed to change the PoW function or DAA in order to allow it to survive.
This scenario can be encouraged by whales. If whales specifically desire to make Segwit1x the dominant chain, they can buy Segwit1x. If they are able to sustain a high price of Segwit1x due to a flood of capital that lasts beyond any insecurity, the miners are incentivized to switch back over from Segwit2x. However, this requires vastly more capital than the scenario in which Bitcoin Cash wins because the market cap of Bitcoin is more than 10 times that of Bitcoin Cash. Rational whales who actually want Bitcoin to succeed would prefer the Bitcoin Cash scenario. Other Near-Term Scenarios
There are other scenarios that are logically possible, such as the co-existence of Segwit1x and Segwit2x with no further hard forks, but they are unlikely. I believe one of the above three scenarios will almost certainly be the scenario that plays out in November.
Long-Term Scenarios
Note that if Bitcoin Cash does not achieve majority mining power and total accumulated PoW, the situation will continue to be unstable past the November 18 fork. Over the long-term, Bitcoin Cash can both achieve a larger user-base than Segwit1x/Segwit2x and, because it has a better DAA, it can't die, and will therefore continue to be a thorn in the side of Bitcoin until it ultimately acquires majority mining support and becomes labeled "Bitcoin".
However, things could easily change long-term to affect these probabilities. For instance, if Bitcoin changes its DAA to be similar to Bitcoin Cash, then Bitcoin Cash's advantage will go away and the mining dominance of Bitcoin will continue.
Thoughts?
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The November BTC Fork and Bitcoin Cash - The Facts

Update: Thank you for your appreciation on this article. I decided to publish it on Medium.  
You can find the article on this link.
 
Existing Article:
With less than a dozen days left before the SegWit2X fork, I have started gathering facts before I start forming personal opinions and speculative conclusions. I refer to the SegWit1X chain as 1X and the SegWit2X chain as 2X for simplicity, and I have looked for very simple facts and safe assumptions. Here are the dots that I gathered:  
 
• Fork at Block 494,784. Approximate date = 16th of November.  
 
The New York Agreement: The NYA involved parties representing about 83% of the then hashing power who all agreed to both hardforks - one for SegWit and another for an increased block size of 2MB (2X) within 6 months of the former. Further details in reference 1.  
 
• It is safe to assume that miners will only mine the most profitable chain (possibly several chains in differing proportions).  
• If whales pump a single chain it will gain more value. If this happens, miners will be more inclined to mine that particular chain only. This will result in the other chain(s)potentially losing overall mining attractiveness.  
 
1X will continue to have a 1MB block and SegWit;  
2X will have a 2MB block and SegWit;  
Bitcoin Cash (Just for info right now) currently has an 8 MB block with NO SegWit;  
 
Current Price Status (Futures) on BitFinex: 2X/BTC = 0.17; 1X/BTC = 0.83  
 
Current Mining Status: 2X = Around 85% of blocks are signalling for 2X.  
It seems only a few mining pools including Slush Pool, F2Pool and Kano CKPool are not signalling Segwit2X. All Antpool (Jihan Wu) owned pools are signalling for Segwit2X and will likely continue to do so up to the fork. It is not clear if any other pools from the Segwit2X signalling group will change their minds in the meantime.  
 
Lower mining power chain: Likely to be 1X. Fees likely to be extremely high as not many miners. Difficulty adjustment could take a few weeks, if not months. Until then it will be very difficult to transfer funds. [It may be better to keep BTC on an exchange before fork, to ease liquidity cost/time if you want to sell either of the coins immediately]  
 
Double-spending: Miners (from 2X) will have an ability and incentive to double-spend on the minority chain (lower mining power chain). If you have huge mining power, you can allocate some of it to just double-spend on the minority chain. Some people will possibly lose confidence in the minority chain as a result.  
 
Replay-Protection: Neither 1X nor 2X currently have replay protection.  
 
Exchanges:
  1. Bitfinex: original chain is “BTC”, SegWit2x chain is “B2X”  
  2. BitMEX: Original chain is BTC  
  3. Bitstamp: Unknown  
  4. GDAX & Coinbase: hash power and market cap decides which chain is “BTC”  
  5. Kraken: Unknown  
  6. HitBTC: original chain is “BTC”, SegWit2x chain is “B2X”  
  7. CoinsBank: Original chain is BTC  
  8. CEX.IO: original chain is “BTC”, SegWit2x chain is “B2X”  
  9. Gemini: hash power decides which chain is “BTC”  
  10. Coinfloor: Unknown  
  11. BTCC (Updated on Twitter): BTCC will consider which of 1MB and 2MB to name as #bitcoin based on market feedback and adoption.  
Further details in reference 4.  
 
The opinion section
Vinny Lingham's opinion: 2X will outcompete 1X.  
 
Enter Bitcoin Cash: A review by Ryan X. Charles who has incorporated some of Vinny Lingham's quotes, states the following:  
 
a. BCH is a fork of BTC with same PoW, but with improved Difficulty Adjustment Algorithm (DAA). BCH cannot die, but 1X and 2X could both die. If whales shift most of their holdings to BCH (or another coin), that would incentivise the miners to mine BCH (or another coin) instead of 1X and 2X. Both 1X and 2X would lose their mining power; however Core would release an emergency update to software adding DAA like BCH (or another coin). Thus, 1X would survive, and 2X (which might not get DAA) would die.  
 
b. If 2X continues to be the dominantly mined chain, 1X will be forced to launch an emergency update to their PoW with DAA. There could be fighting between the two chains, and as a result a struggle to become dominant potentially causing altcoins to flourish.  
 
My observations
BCH is upgrading their EDA (Emergency Difficulty Adjuster) on Nov 13. See website. This will lead to reduced volatility in BCH - likely making it more attractive to more long-term miners.  
 
Mining profitability: It is currently almost equally profitable to mine either BTC or BCH.  
 
• What to keep and eye on before the fork to judge yourself where the fate of BTC is heading.  
  1. Mining signalling distribution
  2. DAA: 1X or 2X software updates to implement Difficulty Adjustment Algorithms
  3. Futures price before fork
  4. Significant whale movement
 
References:  
  1. New York Agreement  
  2. Hashing Distribution  
  3. Ryan X. Charles's opinions  
  4. Exchange listings for both chains  
  5. Interview with Vinny Lingham  
 
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Predicting the Outcome of the November Bitcoin Fork

On approximately November 18, Bitcoin will split into two chains: Segwit1x and Segwit2x. Because these chains share the same proof-of-work function (PoW) and neither change the difficulty adjustment algorithm (DAA), it is unlikely that both will survive simultaneously.
A complicating factor is the existence of Bitcoin Cash, a fork of Bitcoin which shares the same PoW but has in addition an improved DAA that ensures it can adjust downward in difficulty rapidly as needed in the event of miner evacuation, keeping its block interval at approximately 10 minutes on average. Bitcoin Cash cannot die, but Segwit1x and Segwit2x can both die.
These are the possible scenarios that may unfold starting November 18:
Scenario 1: The Flippening
Bitcoin Cash becomes the dominant chain measured by total PoW, Segwit1x survives with an "emergency hard fork" to a new PoW function or DAA, and Segwit2x dies.
This scenario is widely ignored or ridiculed in the Bitcoin community which is why the current price of Bitcoin is more than ten times the price of Bitcoin Cash. However, this scenario is actually the most likely due to the spectacular gains to be made by miners, speculators and businesses who game this scenario. Anyone who is in a position to cause the flippening can increase their money 10-fold in a month, followed by far higher long-term gains due to the ability of Bitcoin Cash to scale to a global audience.
If this scenario plays out, it will probably happen as follows:
Whales will buy Bitcoin Cash cheap and sell Bitcoin at its all-time highs in preparation for the flippening. Then by leveraging huge amounts of capital, whales will push the price of Bitcoin Cash up and the price of Bitcoin down at approximately the same time as the split between Segwit1x and Segwit2x.
Miners will now be incentivized to switch from Segwit1x/Segwit2x to Bitcoin Cash due to improved profitability, while Segwit1x and Segwit2x both struggle on suddenly far lower mining power. Miners themselves may also be whales and will deliberately cause the incentives to shift for their own double gain.
Segwit2x dies to due no ability to change the PoW or DAA (since that's not a part of the New York Agreement (NYA)). Segwit1x changes its PoW and survives as an altcoin branded as "Bitcoin". Many in the Segwit1x community are already comfortable with this possibility, and more certainly will be if all of their value is threatened with destruction otherwise. Over some period of time, Bitcoin Cash achieves status as the longest chain as measured by total PoW and some exchanges and businesses now regard it as being "Bitcoin".
Scenario 2: Segwit2x wins
Segwit2x becomes the dominant chain measured by total PoW, Segwit1x changes its PoW, and Bitcoin Cash survives. This is the second most likely scenario due to the fact that a vast majority of miners and a majority of businesses have committed to Segwit2x as part of the NYA. However, this scenario is strictly less likely than the above due to the lesser gains to be made. No one can multiply their value by 10-fold in a short period of time in this scenario. And the long-term future is likely to continue to have infighting, high fees, and loss of market share to altcoins - it's better for business if Bitcoin Cash wins.
Note that, even if Segwit1x has a higher price on exchanges at the time of the fork, that does not help Segwit1x much if miners stick to their agreement and continue to mine Segwit2x. See Vinny Lingham's theory about how the minority chain cannot have a higher value.
In this scenario, similar to the above, it is most likely Segwit1x will change its PoW and become an altcoin in order to ensure its chain survives.
Scenario 3: Segwit1x wins
Segwit1x becomes the dominant chain measured by total PoW, Segwit2x dies, and Bitcoin Cash survives. If the movement from the Segwit1x community is successful, Segwit2x will be prevented from occurring due to the community uprising. This scenario is less likely than the above two scenarios due to the lack of commitment from miners to mine the Segwit1x chain. Segwit1x will probably not survive on ~10% of mining power due to excessively long block times for several months. Trolling on social media is not a substitute for mining power.
In this scenario, Segwit2x completely dies as no parties in the NYA agreed to change the PoW function or DAA in order to allow it to survive.
This scenario can be encouraged by whales. If whales specifically desire to make Segwit1x the dominant chain, they can buy Segwit1x. If they are able to sustain a high price of Segwit1x due to a flood of capital that lasts beyond any insecurity, the miners are incentivized to switch back over from Segwit2x. However, this requires vastly more capital than the scenario in which Bitcoin Cash wins because the market cap of Bitcoin is more than 10 times that of Bitcoin Cash. Rational whales who actually want Bitcoin to succeed would prefer the Bitcoin Cash scenario. Other Near-Term Scenarios
There are other scenarios that are logically possible, such as the co-existence of Segwit1x and Segwit2x with no further hard forks, but they are unlikely. I believe one of the above three scenarios will almost certainly be the scenario that plays out in November.
Long-Term Scenarios
Note that if Bitcoin Cash does not achieve majority mining power and total accumulated PoW, the situation will continue to be unstable past the November 18 fork. Over the long-term, Bitcoin Cash can both achieve a larger user-base than Segwit1x/Segwit2x and, because it has a better DAA, it can't die, and will therefore continue to be a thorn in the side of Bitcoin until it ultimately acquires majority mining support and becomes labeled "Bitcoin".
However, things could easily change long-term to affect these probabilities. For instance, if Bitcoin changes its DAA to be similar to Bitcoin Cash, then Bitcoin Cash's advantage will go away and the mining dominance of Bitcoin will continue.
Thoughts?
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November BTC Fork - The Facts Point to BCH

Update: Thank you for your appreciation on this article. I decided to publish it on Medium.  
You can find the article on this link.
 
Existing Article: With less than a dozen days left before the SegWit2X fork, I have started gathering facts before I start forming personal opinions and speculative conclusions. I refer to the SegWit1X chain as 1X and the SegWit2X chain as 2X for simplicity, and I have looked for very simple facts and safe assumptions. Here are the dots that I gathered:  
 
• Fork at Block 494,784. Approximate date = 16th of November.  
 
The New York Agreement: The NYA involved parties representing about 83% of the then hashing power who all agreed to both hardforks - one for SegWit and another for an increased block size of 2MB (2X) within 6 months of the former. Further details in reference 1.  
 
• It is safe to assume that miners will only mine the most profitable chain (possibly several chains in differing proportions).  
• If whales pump a single chain it will gain more value. If this happens, miners will be more inclined to mine that particular chain only. This will result in the other chain(s)potentially losing overall mining attractiveness.  
 
1X will continue to have a 1MB block and SegWit;  
2X will have a 2MB block and SegWit;  
Bitcoin Cash (Just for info right now) currently has an 8 MB block with NO SegWit;  
 
Current Price Status (Futures) on BitFinex: 2X/BTC = 0.17; 1X/BTC = 0.83  
 
Current Mining Status: 2X = Around 85% of blocks are signalling for 2X.  
It seems only a few mining pools including Slush Pool, F2Pool and Kano CKPool are not signalling Segwit2X. All Antpool (Jihan Wu) owned pools are signalling for Segwit2X and will likely continue to do so up to the fork. It is not clear if any other pools from the Segwit2X signalling group will change their minds in the meantime.  
 
Lower mining power chain: Likely to be 1X. Fees likely to be extremely high as not many miners. Difficulty adjustment could take a few weeks, if not months. Until then it will be very difficult to transfer funds. [It may be better to keep BTC on an exchange before fork, to ease liquidity cost/time if you want to sell either of the coins immediately]  
 
Double-spending: Miners (from 2X) will have an ability and incentive to double-spend on the minority chain (lower mining power chain). If you have huge mining power, you can allocate some of it to just double-spend on the minority chain. Some people will possibly lose confidence in the minority chain as a result.  
 
Replay-Protection: Neither 1X nor 2X currently have replay protection.  
 
Exchanges:
  1. Bitfinex: original chain is “BTC”, SegWit2x chain is “B2X”  
  2. BitMEX: Original chain is BTC  
  3. Bitstamp: Unknown  
  4. GDAX & Coinbase: hash power and market cap decides which chain is “BTC”  
  5. Kraken: Unknown  
  6. HitBTC: original chain is “BTC”, SegWit2x chain is “B2X”  
  7. CoinsBank: Original chain is BTC  
  8. CEX.IO: original chain is “BTC”, SegWit2x chain is “B2X”  
  9. Gemini: hash power decides which chain is “BTC”  
  10. Coinfloor: Unknown  
  11. BTCC (Updated on Twitter): BTCC will consider which of 1MB and 2MB to name as #bitcoin based on market feedback and adoption.  
Further details in reference 4.  
 
The opinion section
Vinny Lingham's opinion: 2X will outcompete 1X.  
 
Enter Bitcoin Cash: A review by Ryan X. Charles who has incorporated some of Vinny Lingham's quotes, states the following:  
 
a. BCH is a fork of BTC with same PoW, but with improved Difficulty Adjustment Algorithm (DAA). BCH cannot die, but 1X and 2X could both die. If whales shift most of their holdings to BCH (or another coin), that would incentivise the miners to mine BCH (or another coin) instead of 1X and 2X. Both 1X and 2X would lose their mining power; however Core would release an emergency update to software adding DAA like BCH (or another coin). Thus, 1X would survive, and 2X (which might not get DAA) would die.  
 
b. If 2X continues to be the dominantly mined chain, 1X will be forced to launch an emergency update to their PoW with DAA. There could be fighting between the two chains, and as a result a struggle to become dominant potentially causing altcoins to flourish.  
 
My observations
BCH is upgrading their EDA (Emergency Difficulty Adjuster) on Nov 13. See website. This will lead to reduced volatility in BCH - likely making it more attractive to more long-term miners.  
 
Mining profitability: It is currently almost equally profitable to mine either BTC or BCH.  
 
• What to keep and eye on before the fork to judge yourself where the fate of BTC is heading.  
  1. Mining signalling distribution
  2. DAA: 1X or 2X software updates to implement Difficulty Adjustment Algorithms
  3. Futures price before fork
  4. Significant whale movement
 
References:  
  1. New York Agreement  
  2. Hashing Distribution  
  3. Ryan X. Charles's opinions  
  4. Exchange listings for both chains  
  5. Interview with Vinny Lingham
 
Update: Thank you for your appreciation and support on this article. I decided to publish it on Medium.  
You can find the article on this link.
submitted by tenmillionsterling to btc [link] [comments]

What Will Be Bitcoin's Next Big Price Event?

For the price of bitcoin, the summer was anything but smooth.
Markets boomed on news of 'the Brexit', tapered off through the long-awaited halving and tumbled on the news yet another exchange had been hacked. Since then, the price has fluctuated between $550 and $600, returning to the "relative" calm observed earlier in the year.
But given bitcoin's historical volatility, analysts are already beginning to question what may trigger bitcoin's next big price swing.
As we head into the fall and winter months, a diverse set of theories are beginning to emerge about conditions that could either boost the price, or see it return to its 2015 lows.
Institutional approval
Among the potential triggers cited by analysts, the emergence of a bitcoin exchange-traded fund (ETF), an investment vehicle that generally tracks a basket of stocks or commodities, was perhaps the most often discussed.
Many market observers have been watching the status of two proposed ETFs with great interest, but for a while, there wasn't any reason to hope for developments. However, excitement for a potential market first has grown in recent weeks following the July announcement of the SolidX Bitcoin Trust and amid new filings by the Winklevoss Bitcoin Trust.
The approval of either could represent a milestone for the bitcoin community, analysts say, as the ETFs would enable authorized participants to issues shares tied to real bitcoin holdings, which could be a catalyst for new liquidity.
Daniel Masters, director of Global Advisors Bitcoin Investment Fund (GABI), noted recently that many commodities have enjoyed sharp increases in price and more robust trading activity once ETFs based on the underlying assets hit the market.
He wrote in an August blog post:
"From the early 2000s onward, there was a proliferation of ETFs covering all manner of commodity interests. In each and every case – for gold, silver, oil, natural gas, platinum, copper and even indices – the advent of the ETFs led to higher prices, more trading volume of futures and cash exchanges and higher levels of commodity futures open interest."
Should either ETF receive approval, bitcoin could enjoy a notable increase in liquidity. It was this variable that Du Jun, co-founder of Chinese exchange Huobi, singled out as potentially driving the digital currency's price higher.
"Bitcoin's liquidity depends on the future of bitcoin's value and investors' expectation to a large extent," Du said.
Technical improvements
Yet another potential boost for the bitcoin price could come in the form of a long-awaited resolution to the "scaling" debate.
Currently, blocks of transactions on the bitcoin blockchain have a storage size of just 1MB. As this puts a limitation on the number of transactions the network can process (and therefore, some argue, adoption), there has been a sometimes messy and contentious drive in the community to change it.
But due to the tricky specifics of how a change to this hard-coded limit would need to be enacted, no consensus has yet been reached. Still, that doesn't mean solutions aren't on the way, the most notable of which is Segregated Witness (SegWit), an upgrade that recently saw a preliminary code release.
While promising for the network, though, analysts seemed less enthusiastic about SegWit’s potential impact on bitcoin prices.
Cryptocurrency investment fund manager Jacob Eliosoff, for example, said investors have likely already priced in the coming change as it was announced in December and originally expected to be deployed in April.
"SegWit's release seems too gradual and widely expected (not to say overdue) to really bump the price," Eliosoff said.
Tim Enneking, chairman of investment manager EAM, struck a similar tone, adding:
"I don’t think SegWit will have anything more than an incremental and marginal impact on BTC prices, at least in the short term."
Post-Halving pressures
In one of the more unique claims, investor and entrepreneur Vinny Lingham singled out the halving of rewards on the bitcoin network as a potential influence.
The prediction may be surprising given that a planned technical change the reduced the mining reward from 25 BTC to 12.5 BTC took place earlier this summer, largely without fanfare.
But while bitcoin prices experienced little change this July, Lingham asserts its true impact has not yet been felt. In the next two-to-four weeks, forces resulting from the shift could cause the digital currency to surge, he said.
As detailed in a recent post, miners who aren't turning enough profit, he contends, may soon be forced to buy bitcoin from exchanges, an event he said was likely to trigger a "short squeeze", or a sharp increase in the price based on the lack of available supply.
He wrote in May:
"It’s the same as selling crops in the futures market and then being hit by a storm that wipes out half of your fields. The only way, technically, that this doesn’t happen, is if the price doubles on halving day (it won’t)."
Financial (in)stability
Finally, some predicted bitcoin's next major price event would be dependent on the stability of the global financial system.
Traders have repeatedly flocked to the digital currency in times of crisis, leading many market observers to label it a risk-off asset or even a "digital gold" that appeals during times of economic stress.
In the past, bitcoin has benefitted from situations such as the 'Brexit', as well as during periods of economic volatility in Greece and Cyprus.
It remains debatable how much of these increases is based on real capital flight, but there is still widespread belief that such events could come to be a powerful influencer going forward.
Huobi's Du spoke to this matter, telling CoinDesk that when the global financial system experiences volatility, investors will "look for more safe-haven investments" like bitcoin.
Another variable remains government responses to the digital currency. If major countries accept bitcoin, analysts said, it will affect both the currency's trading activity and value.
Source: coindesk.com
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November Fork - The Facts

With less than a dozen days left before the SegWit2X fork, I have started gathering facts before I start forming personal opinions and speculative conclusions. I refer to the SegWit1X chain as 1X and the SegWit2X chain as 2X for simplicity, and I have looked for very simple facts and safe assumptions. Here are the dots that I gathered:  
 
• Fork at Block 494,784. Approximate date = 16th of November.  
 
The New York Agreement: The NYA involved parties representing about 83% of the then hashing power who all agreed to both hardforks - one for SegWit and another for an increased block size of 2MB (2X) within 6 months of the former. Further details in reference 1.  
 
• It is safe to assume that miners will only mine the most profitable chain (possibly several chains in differing proportions).  
• If whales pump a single chain it will gain more value. If this happens, miners will be more inclined to mine that particular chain only. This will result in the other chain(s)potentially losing overall mining attractiveness.  
 
1X will continue to have a 1MB block and SegWit;  
2X will have a 2MB block and SegWit;  
Bitcoin Cash (Just for info right now) currently has an 8 MB block with NO SegWit;  
 
Current Price Status (Futures) on BitFinex: 2X/BTC = 0.17; 1X/BTC = 0.83  
 
Current Mining Status: 2X = Around 85% of blocks are signalling for 2X.  
It seems only a few mining pools including Slush Pool, F2Pool and Kano CKPool are not signalling Segwit2X. All Antpool (Jihan Wu) owned pools are signalling for Segwit2X and will likely continue to do so up to the fork. It is not clear if any other pools from the Segwit2X signalling group will change their minds in the meantime.  
 
Lower mining power chain: Likely to be 1X. Fees likely to be extremely high as not many miners. Difficulty adjustment could take a few weeks, if not months. Until then it will be very difficult to transfer funds. [It may be better to keep BTC on an exchange before fork, to ease liquidity cost/time if you want to sell either of the coins immediately]  
 
Double-spending: Miners (from 2X) will have an ability and incentive to double-spend on the minority chain (lower mining power chain). If you have huge mining power, you can allocate some of it to just double-spend on the minority chain. Some people will possibly lose confidence in the minority chain as a result.  
 
Replay-Protection: Neither 1X nor 2X currently have replay protection.  
 
Exchanges:
  1. Bitfinex: original chain is “BTC”, SegWit2x chain is “B2X”  
  2. BitMEX: Original chain is BTC  
  3. Bitstamp: Unknown  
  4. GDAX & Coinbase: hash power and market cap decides which chain is “BTC”  
  5. Kraken: Unknown  
  6. HitBTC: original chain is “BTC”, SegWit2x chain is “B2X”  
  7. CoinsBank: Original chain is BTC  
  8. CEX.IO: original chain is “BTC”, SegWit2x chain is “B2X”  
  9. Gemini: hash power decides which chain is “BTC”  
  10. Coinfloor: Unknown  
  11. BTCC (Updated on Twitter): BTCC will consider which of 1MB and 2MB to name as #bitcoin based on market feedback and adoption.  
Further details in reference 4.  
 
The opinion section
Vinny Lingham's opinion: 2X will outcompete 1X.  
 
Enter Bitcoin Cash: A review by Ryan X. Charles who has incorporated some of Vinny Lingham's quotes, states the following:  
 
a. BCH is a fork of BTC with same PoW, but with improved Difficulty Adjustment Algorithm (DAA). BCH cannot die, but 1X and 2X could both die. If whales shift most of their holdings to BCH (or another coin), that would incentivise the miners to mine BCH (or another coin) instead of 1X and 2X. Both 1X and 2X would lose their mining power; however Core would release an emergency update to software adding DAA like BCH (or another coin). Thus, 1X would survive, and 2X (which might not get DAA) would die.  
 
b. If 2X continues to be the dominantly mined chain, 1X will be forced to launch an emergency update to their PoW with DAA. There could be fighting between the two chains, and as a result a struggle to become dominant potentially causing altcoins to flourish.  
 
My observations
BCH is upgrading their EDA (Emergency Difficulty Adjuster) on Nov 13. See website. This will lead to reduced volatility in BCH - likely making it more attractive to more long-term miners.  
 
Mining profitability: It is currently almost equally profitable to mine either BTC or BCH.  
 
• What to keep and eye on before the fork to judge yourself where the fate of BTC is heading.  
  1. Mining signalling distribution
  2. DAA: 1X or 2X software updates to implement Difficulty Adjustment Algorithms
  3. Futures price before fork
  4. Significant whale movement
 
References:  
  1. New York Agreement  
  2. Hashing Distribution  
  3. Ryan X. Charles's opinions  
  4. Exchange listings for both chains  
  5. Interview with Vinny Lingham  
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    5. Google co-founder, Sergey Brin is a last minute addition to the Blockchain Summit panel on emerging technologies. Says he is mining Ethereum with his son. (875 points, 63 comments)
    6. BREAKING: Mt. Gox ‘Bitcoin Whale’ Trustee Won’t Sell Any More BTC -- (Pretty huge news for entire space and not getting deserved media coverage) (752 points, 74 comments)
    7. L.L. Bean says it might offer discounts for clothing that tracks you using the Ethereum blockchain (529 points, 117 comments)
    8. "Vitalik is both a genius and a class act. That’s why I sold a portion of my BTC for Ethereum in addition to lots of Bitcoin Cash." @RogerkVer (490 points, 151 comments)
    9. Coinbase has a $20 billion hedge fund coming onto its platform (437 points, 31 comments)
    10. eBay joins the Ethereum Enterprise Alliance (410 points, 50 comments)
  10. 8539 points, 5 submissions: sopun
    1. Stocks VS Crypto (2269 points, 53 comments)
    2. Bitconnect, Davorcoin and other scams continue being advertised on Coinmarketcap. We should take a stand as a community and push out these people who made a career out of scamming innocents (2227 points, 147 comments)
    3. A shitcoin ICO called Prodeum just exitscammed millions of dollars from investors and left them only this message on their ICO website (1542 points, 222 comments)
    4. Trevon James erased 39 of his YouTube videos promoting BitConnect yesterday. Looks like he starts getting worried about the class action lawsuit against him (1368 points, 223 comments)
    5. Tron's TRX whitepaper raises more red flags than a workers parade in Soviet Union (1133 points, 231 comments)
  11. 8370 points, 14 submissions: Mr_Yukon_C
    1. This is what leadership looks like -- I present to you, CFTC Chairman Giancarlo (829 points, 43 comments)
    2. Millennials are afraid stocks are too risky, so they're investing in crypto (790 points, 227 comments)
    3. OmiseGo Becomes the First Ethereum Unicorn With a Market Cap of $1 Billion (755 points, 155 comments)
    4. AMERICANS: Kill bill 1241 • ethereum (696 points, 66 comments)
    5. Coinbase prepares for a monster increase in trading (689 points, 174 comments)
    6. Microsoft – Decentralized Digital Identities and Blockchain – The Future as We See It. [Building on Ethereum] (652 points, 87 comments)
    7. MakerDAO and OmiseGO: Announcing Dai and OMG Collaborations (597 points, 115 comments)
    8. Coinbase Custody is Officially Open For Business – The Coinbase Blog (589 points, 92 comments)
    9. Scaling Ethereum to hundreds to thousands of transactions per second - TODAY! (514 points, 47 comments)
    10. George Soros Prepares to Trade Cryptocurrencies (504 points, 312 comments)
  12. 8141 points, 12 submissions: BeerBellyFatAss
    1. Bitfinex now trades all pairs against ETH. It’s time for Binance and the rest of the exchanges to do so as well. (2257 points, 219 comments)
    2. Number of Users on Coinbase Surpasses Number of Brokerage Accounts at Charles Schwab (821 points, 63 comments)
    3. Omise signed an agreement on the development of a national ID utilizing the ETDA and block chains of Thailand government agencies! We will continue to work on a number of projects that utilize block chains! (795 points, 112 comments)
    4. Federal Reserve Branch Adds Cryptocurrency Price Indexes [Yes, Really] (583 points, 64 comments)
    5. Catalonia Considering Cryptocurrency Post-Independence, Advised By Ethereum Creator (503 points, 73 comments)
    6. Germany’s Largest Bitcoin Trading Platform Will Soon Add Etheruem (499 points, 46 comments)
    7. Olaf Carlson - On Bloomberg Technology (12/01) - Ethereum to Surpass Bitcoin Market Cap by YE 2018 - Great Interview! (476 points, 141 comments)
    8. Casper is Pretty Close, Sharding Number One Priority Says Vitalik Buterin (474 points, 79 comments)
    9. EOS Now Has Only 100,000 Eth Left After Weeks of Selling (451 points, 140 comments)
    10. "Ethereum, which I think just touched $500 or is getting close, could be triple where it is as well" - Michael Novogratz (442 points, 106 comments)
  13. 7380 points, 5 submissions: EthTrader_Mod
    1. [ETH Daily Discussion] - 22/May/2017 (4035 points, 10454 comments)
    2. Daily Discussion [Serious] - 16/Jun/2017 (1359 points, 4524 comments)
    3. [ETH Daily Discussion] - 28/May/2017 (685 points, 3331 comments)
    4. [ETH Daily Discussion] - 04/Jun/2017 (653 points, 3872 comments)
    5. [ETH Daily Discussion] - 29/May/2017 (648 points, 4635 comments)
  14. 7369 points, 9 submissions: Butta_TRiBot
    1. Vitalik Buterin: If all that we accomplish is lambo memes and immature puns about "sharting", then I WILL leave. (2174 points, 426 comments)
    2. Vitalik Buterin: In my opinion, the current sharding spec as described is already good enough to get us to thousands of transactions per second (1554 points, 188 comments)
    3. Chinese Internet security giant 360 has found "a series of epic vulnerabilities" in the EOS platform. (703 points, 186 comments)
    4. Inflation rate will go down by ~90% with Casper and Sharding (3 ETH block reward -> 0.22ETH) (701 points, 214 comments)
    5. "Casper Testnet up right now and Sharding will come sooner than you think" - Karl Floersch [41:02] (501 points, 44 comments)
    6. Vitalik on Wechat: We have started developing a test version of Ethereum with sharding using python (445 points, 79 comments)
    7. Elon Musk: "Starting a candy company....Cryptocandy" (437 points, 83 comments)
    8. The reason I invested in Ethereum - motivated developers who even spend their free time explaining the tech (431 points, 79 comments)
    9. Congrats to @naterush1997 and @dannyryan for releasing v0.2 of the cbc Casper prototypes, last night! (423 points, 43 comments)
  15. 7084 points, 5 submissions: ScienceGuy9489
    1. New price target $1,000 (2993 points, 503 comments)
    2. I heard you guys miss me, looks like we're only going up from here (2100 points, 645 comments)
    3. Technical Analysis, Liftoff Due June 16th (758 points, 1019 comments)
    4. I predicted the last two liftoffs, the next one is by May 24th. (729 points, 529 comments)
    5. I predicted the last 3 liftoffs, this is a situation update (504 points, 458 comments)
  16. 6299 points, 10 submissions: jtnichol
    1. Joseph Lubin on Twitter: "#Bitcoin = A single app. #Ethereum = An entire app store. Thanks for having me on @BloombergTV, always a pleasure. https://t.co/LXKX8cF8BR" (1208 points, 89 comments)
    2. Microsoft helps launch world’s first blockchain-based investment product: settled on the public Ethereum chain. (926 points, 82 comments)
    3. This room feels like Q4 2016 all over again (774 points, 262 comments)
    4. Massive heap of rhetoric. But it needs to be said. (592 points, 245 comments)
    5. Friday Donut Day. (535 points, 52 comments)
    6. We're rocketing up in subscribers. Wow! (+1,160 subscribers today; 164% trend score) • TrendingReddits (516 points, 58 comments)
    7. Vitalik Buterin on Twitter: Plasma implementations are already happening (491 points, 73 comments)
    8. Unlisted Video Message just for Ethtrader - Thanks for helping someone on Reddit yesterday struggling with life. (476 points, 77 comments)
    9. For all the drama lately I've made you some comfort food. I love you Ethtrader. Whale sized BLT's with a quart of Bloody Mary. (393 points, 87 comments)
    10. Vitalik Buterin on Twitter: "Scalability research and development subsidy programs: https://t.co/PwbkdUHbZS" (388 points, 40 comments)

Top Commenters

  1. thepipebomb (9705 points, 581 comments)
  2. csasker (8730 points, 848 comments)
  3. DCinvestor (8271 points, 430 comments)
  4. jtnichol (8161 points, 676 comments)
  5. econoar (8044 points, 600 comments)
  6. Nooku (7550 points, 399 comments)
  7. cutsnek (7201 points, 485 comments)
  8. cyoreligion (6716 points, 373 comments)
  9. antiprosynthesis (6285 points, 730 comments)
  10. oldskool47 (5572 points, 394 comments)
  11. Libertymark (5541 points, 1050 comments)
  12. Mr_Yukon_C (5370 points, 405 comments)
  13. loveYouEth (5105 points, 275 comments)
  14. subdep (5007 points, 314 comments)
  15. IRefuseToGiveAName (5004 points, 361 comments)
  16. laughncow (4728 points, 333 comments)
  17. ethacct (4706 points, 304 comments)
  18. dillllllzzzzz (4594 points, 347 comments)
  19. ruvalm (4548 points, 260 comments)
  20. shouldbdan (4428 points, 270 comments)

Top Submissions

  1. Everytime Bitcoin drops by Pracy_ (16397 points, 357 comments)
  2. Here you go by _Mido (9787 points, 312 comments)
  3. Welcome to ethtrader new people, let me save you some time by Justjoshmygosh (7352 points, 367 comments)
  4. Dips are just happy little accidents by PaulieVideos (6217 points, 212 comments)
  5. It's one of the biggest moments of your life... what to wear? by moneyfink (5606 points, 485 comments)
  6. I'm a longterm hodler, but even i hate this sub sometimes. by shadow_op (4629 points, 286 comments)
  7. Literally.. by DAXEEY (4111 points, 162 comments)
  8. [ETH Daily Discussion] - 22/May/2017 by EthTrader_Mod (4035 points, 10454 comments)
  9. Ethereum is UP since last month! Can we get this post to all to show everyone the tides are turning quickly by saintmax (4027 points, 190 comments)
  10. Ethereum is now processing more transactions a day than all other cryptos combined. by econoar (4020 points, 469 comments)

Top Comments

  1. 1715 points: Blactory's comment in Everytime Bitcoin drops
  2. 1348 points: deleted's comment in It's one of the biggest moments of your life... what to wear?
  3. 1300 points: dwy0818's comment in Been in a coma for 23 days, about to check my portfolio
  4. 1170 points: Butterfly_Lags's comment in New price target $1,000
  5. 1106 points: mikewirkijowski's comment in Here you go
  6. 1052 points: phigo50's comment in My wife just talked me out of selling $10,000 eth
  7. 952 points: PcChip's comment in Vitalik Buterin: If all that we accomplish is lambo memes and immature puns about "sharting", then I WILL leave.
  8. 865 points: deleted's comment in Ethereum is UP since last month! Can we get this post to all to show everyone the tides are turning quickly
  9. 832 points: BroKing's comment in It's one of the biggest moments of your life... what to wear?
  10. 829 points: khalo_'s comment in Welcome to ethtrader new people, let me save you some time
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Scaling "debate" (*attacks) ELI5 for newbies:

Miners want the transactions ON chain and as many, slow and inefficient as possible, because they get paid (fees) for each one of them. That's why they want bigger blocks to hold/carry/process more transactions and why they have been always blocking every possible progress/solution that would benefit the whole world (with the sole exception of themselves): Segwit, LN, second layer scaling apps, etc.
That's why they created their fake bitcoin without Segwit. Read also about Asicboost and Antbleed (those are also whole dirty rabbit holes by themselves):
That's how the Mafia operates, and joining the Mining Cartel and their leader Jihan Wu, there are some corrupt very rich individuals that want more power and control for themselves (some of them well-known scammers and felons) colluding with them like: Roger Ver, Craig Wright, Barry Seibert, John McAfee, Bobby Lee, Stephen Pair, Calvin Ayre, Vitalik Buterin, Ryan Charles, Gavin Andresen, Jeff Garzic, Mike Hearn, Haipo Yang, Rick Falkvinge, Jon Matonis, Wences Casares, Tony Gallippi, Mike Belshe, Vinny Lingham, Olivier Janssens, Jeremy Allaire, Peter Vessenes, Bruce Wagner, Brock Pierce, Vinny Lingham, Olivier Janssens, Jeremy Allaire, Peter Vessenes, Bruce Wagner, Brock Pierce, etc.
https://news.bitcoin.com/bitpay-partners-bitmain-multi-million-dollar-agreement/
Must read post from u/cutepoops:
https://www.reddit.com/Bitcoin/comments/7cgzbv/so_i_did_5minutes_of_digging_and_oh_my_god/
Bitcoin Cash Operation: Collusion and Manipulation
On one of the numerous attacks against Bitcoin, one the most powerful and recent ones (SX2/NYA) they were also joined by some Banker's special forces embedded in DCG with Barry Seibert: Blythe Masters, Larry Summers, Glen Hutchins, etc. That's another deep rabbit hole and here's some interesting information and evidence.
Among their explicit objectives that they themselves stated multiple times, were to "fire" all Core developers (those meddling good guys opposing their take-over attempts) and they've been using some of these powerful tools to spread FUD, misinformation, Blockstream-Core conspiracies, etc:
So, remain sceptical and do your own research to decide on what side are you on, where to invest your money and what companies and individuals deserve your trust and support.
On the long term, none of those dramas matter anyway, Moneybadger don't care: Decentralized, Immutable, Trustless, Freedom-Giver, Worldwide-Distributed, Censorless, Permissionless, Antifragile technology's time has come and nothing can stop it.
"Even China Can't Kill Bitcoin"
https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-02-24/even-china-can-t-kill-bitcoin
BILL GATES: “NOBODY CAN STOP BITCOIN”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0HmrSfJwhU
Andreas Antonopoulos: "No Governments can ban Bitcoin"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIQkuF_I5Xo
Edit: Added Antbleed.
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Thoughts and Ideas Regarding Mining

Link to @Daniel_Plante Thread

I'm going to retweet a twitter convo I had on 2019-03-17, reformatted to make it clearer. It's about mining, and #Bitcoin's survivability.
The thread included @petertoddbtc, @VinnyLingham, @BitcoinORama, @misterdna and @desantis IIRC. FYI: () means comment by me after the fact, and [] means a later edit to make things a little more clear. Here it is, comments welcome:
Thanks Mr Mendez (@misterdna), yes I already read it. Too much talking, not enough listening. This question might interest you Alex (@BitcoinORama):
if a hash+memory based cryptocoin proof took [off], would you expect Corsair (Micron?) would include one tiny hash core per DRAM die?
The DRAM industry is at the top of its product adoption S-curve. Razor thin margins, supply contracts years into the future, and R&D cycles give 2% improvement/year. It's not possible to dominate that industry [the way Bitcoin ASIC designers did] with less than $50B and 10 years. DRAM is what's known as a "commodity [mature] product" - not "commodity" as in corn or oil. [But] like toasters or flashlights. The economic inertia is immense. Basically, the only ASIC attack you could do on the DRAM industry is to make your ASIC into a better DRAM. Which of course is a silly notion.
If you want a 2nd opinion, @BitcoinORama might help. Alex, GPUs simply accelerate an algorithm. You already gamed that. Can't game memory. An algo might be gamed. You can't game a solid proof of control of a physical resource. "Memory intensive algos" are a hope and a prayer. Do you want a hybrid Pow+DRAM example?
(@desantis): yes.
Ok... you have a PC. You mine as usual, pick your tx's & assemble your block. Set your nonce, but also set a DRAM size commitment (2, 4, 8 Gb etc). Hash that block, put that hash in memory. Then hash that result and put that in the next mem location, etc. If you use up the DRAM commitment, advance the nonce & start over. If you find the solution, keep hashing/storing to the end of your DRAM commitment, & publish. A lot more detail, but that's basically it. Prove you have a physical [common] resource.
(@desantis) what if I have multiple TB of RAM?
Sure, buy multiple TB of RAM, that's fine. But it can only be served by one hash source. (Most don't grok that critical point.)
(@desantis) the ability to acquire large quantities of RAM becomes the new ASIC, no?
The new ASIC... to a certain extent, but it's bound to a single hash node, and the current global installed base of DRAM, in conjunction with manufacturer contracts precludes that in any practical sense.
(@desantis) where can I read more?
No place in particular. Mentioned it a few times over the years. In detail only now.
(@pa49): I guess the point is that there's no monopoly on DRAM.
(@desantis) there will be once the manufacturers realize their hw prints money, no?
Not really about monopoly, but just a mature industry that a BTC ASIC startup would not have a hope in hell of prying open.
(@BitcoinORama) you can allocate memory to the same package as the chip if justified re: scrypt asics Right Alex, and here's an interesting question: if PoW+DRAM takes [off], will Micron add a tiny hashing core to its DRAM dies?
(@desantis) I think they would.
I think you're right. Under those circumstances, that's what I would advise them to do.
(@BitcoinORama) ahh now i think I get where you are going with this.
Thanks for your help Alex. Our talk the other night gelled my thoughts. yeah I started reading that http://Bitcointalk.org thread today. [It Prodded] me. But 2 more things:
miner has to complete the DRAM commitment but then use the very last hash as input to an algorithm that points back to multiple random results in the DRAM range & publish it.
Keeps him honest.
2nd, if he commits to 26G but finds the answer in the 1st 10M, he might want to quickly start over with a 1G commit if he lies about how much memory per hasher. So, counterintuitively, you make the difficulty setting for 2G twice as high as 4G. (And that was the convo from March 19th 2017. But, something I forgot to add:
DRAM hybrid mining difficulty.
For a PoW+DRAM hybrid, you don't actually have to synchronise them. They work independently. You just design your consensus algorithm to accept the "first past the post" from either of them. Bitcoin's timing is currently designed around 10 minute blocks, & just hashing.
This hybrid design will require a 3-variable DRAM difficulty approach to seamlessly integrate into the hashing paradigm economics. It is wise to accomodate the ASIC designer and miner, so give them 2 years to turn their profits and get out. So you want to make the DRAM part of it very difficcult at first.
Here's the 3 layers:
Layer 1 is the introductory layer: a reverse S-curve, because you want the DRAM success to start slow, then accelerate, then go asymptotic to its final value which will then eclipse pure PoW. It should be 100 times harder to get a block reward using DRAM at first.
Layer 2 is the core value: long term DRAM difficulty calculation - it is recalculated the same as the current Bitcoin one, every 2 weeks or so.
Layer 3 is dependent on your memory size commitment before you start to hash and store results. Reconciling these 3 variables gives you your difficulty level before you start a hash/store run.
Again, all you have to do to restore mining to the masses is tie it to a real world physical resource everybody has, and/or can easily get. I've said many times that the "proof" needs more than "decentralized" - it absolutely requires "massively diffuse" or it won't work:
ie,"a miner in every home".
And that's the software side of things. The hardware side (internet physical infrastructure that you don't control) is yet another sticky point. I have a couple of ideas about that, but I sense that very few will embrace the unavoidable tradeoffs. Thanks for your time.)
Update: I found a critical flaw
A miner with ASICs could just hash at full speed "off line" without storing results, find the solution, then pass the data + nonce to a PC with DRAM to reproduce that winning pass but store the results.
Solution: Instead of using the very last hash to compute a memory location to publish, you instead do it periodically during the hashing run, eg every 1024 hashes or 65536 or whatever. Use the value at that location to XOR with your last hash. Repeat through your run.
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Subreddit Stats: ethtrader top posts from 2016-12-11 to 2018-10-04 06:19 PDT

Period: 662.14 days
Submissions Comments
Total 991 177374
Rate (per day) 1.50 267.71
Unique Redditors 568 23330
Combined Score 829084 1754738

Top Submitters' Top Submissions

  1. 40162 points, 55 submissions: AutoModerator
    1. [ETH Daily Discussion] - 14/Jun/2017 (2927 points, 8386 comments)
    2. [ETH Daily Discussion] - 15/Jun/2017 (1960 points, 8489 comments)
    3. [ETH Daily Discussion] - 13/Jun/2017 (1763 points, 5112 comments)
    4. [ETH Daily Discussion] - 12/Jun/2017 (1359 points, 12775 comments)
    5. [ETH Daily Discussion] - 24/May/2017 (1341 points, 9347 comments)
    6. [ETH Daily Discussion] - 23/May/2017 (1239 points, 6347 comments)
    7. [ETH Daily Discussion] - 30/May/2017 (1142 points, 8943 comments)
    8. [ETH Daily Discussion] - 25/May/2017 (1019 points, 8047 comments)
    9. [ETH Daily Discussion] - 10/Jun/2017 (1003 points, 7919 comments)
    10. Daily Discussion [Serious] - 17/Jun/2017 (908 points, 2860 comments)
  2. 16394 points, 1 submission: Pracy_
    1. Everytime Bitcoin drops (16394 points, 351 comments)
  3. 11934 points, 4 submissions: Justjoshmygosh
    1. Welcome to ethtrader new people, let me save you some time (7348 points, 366 comments)
    2. This is NOT the end (2068 points, 196 comments)
    3. Welcome BACK to ethtrader (1972 points, 110 comments)
    4. Hello again, ethtrader... looks like I have some work to do (546 points, 10 comments)
  4. 11914 points, 2 submissions: _Mido
    1. Here you go (9784 points, 312 comments)
    2. How I felt this week (2130 points, 228 comments)
  5. 10253 points, 15 submissions: twigwam
    1. Apple's Steve Wozniak Dumps Facebook And Thinks Ethereum Could Be The New Apple (1153 points, 80 comments)
    2. “We owe it this new generation to respect their enthusiasm about virtual currencies with a thoughtful and balanced response, not a dismissive one.” -- CFTC Chairman Giancarlo (1119 points, 62 comments)
    3. "Today Ethereum transacted over $100,000,000 PER HOUR on average, with over 53% of transactions going to smart contracts -- really speaks for Ethereum's success as a contract platform" --- Paul Kohlhaas (1112 points, 39 comments)
    4. Reddit Founder: "I’m most bullish about Ethereum simply because people are actually building on it." [MSN] (1081 points, 185 comments)
    5. Google co-founder, Sergey Brin is a last minute addition to the Blockchain Summit panel on emerging technologies. Says he is mining Ethereum with his son. (872 points, 62 comments)
    6. BREAKING: Mt. Gox ‘Bitcoin Whale’ Trustee Won’t Sell Any More BTC -- (Pretty huge news for entire space and not getting deserved media coverage) (758 points, 74 comments)
    7. Brave Browser passes 3 million monthly active users & makes top 10 list in the Google Play Store in 21 countries (680 points, 93 comments)
    8. L.L. Bean says it might offer discounts for clothing that tracks you using the Ethereum blockchain (529 points, 117 comments)
    9. "Vitalik is both a genius and a class act. That’s why I sold a portion of my BTC for Ethereum in addition to lots of Bitcoin Cash." @RogerkVer (493 points, 151 comments)
    10. Coinbase has a $20 billion hedge fund coming onto its platform (438 points, 31 comments)
  6. 10161 points, 8 submissions: econoar
    1. Ethereum is now processing more transactions a day than all other cryptos combined. (4026 points, 468 comments)
    2. SEC says they don't believe ETH to be a security. (1459 points, 167 comments)
    3. Today, Ethereum has processed 50% more txs than BTC. Ethereum currently has 17 pending TX and BTC has 45k. It takes $0.006 to move Ether in less than 20 seconds. (1406 points, 281 comments)
    4. Visa, IBM, Microsoft and USAA have all posted jobs in the past week looking for Ethereum developers (866 points, 46 comments)
    5. Goldman-Backed Startup Circle Launches No-Fee Foreign Payments Service. Built on Ethereum. (855 points, 85 comments)
    6. Etheremon is completely centralized and the owners can withdrawal all the funds from the contract. (662 points, 380 comments)
    7. On average, it's 59x cheaper to send an Ethereum transaction than a Bitcoin transaction. (485 points, 31 comments)
    8. Ethereum dapps expected to launch very soon. (402 points, 131 comments)
  7. 9930 points, 16 submissions: DCinvestor
    1. Personal Finance Rules for Being an Effective Holder (1307 points, 237 comments)
    2. Will Proof of Stake turn ETH into the best Store of Value coin? (1088 points, 144 comments)
    3. It's time to take back the narrative around Ether and Ethereum. Ethereum is the future of digital, decentralized finance. (771 points, 126 comments)
    4. Catalysts for ETH Price Increases Over the Next 6 to 12 Months (654 points, 135 comments)
    5. What can the earlier days of Bitcoin teach us about holding Ethereum? (625 points, 151 comments)
    6. How to Survive Crypto Investing (in this market, or in any market) (624 points, 121 comments)
    7. The Most Important Crypto Theses for 2018 (and my current feelings on this market) (604 points, 317 comments)
    8. A Re-evaluation of Ethereum as Long Term Investment (versus new market entrants) (590 points, 136 comments)
    9. Opera introduces first browser with built-in Crypto Wallet for Ethereum (537 points, 64 comments)
    10. It's time for investors to pursue quality, and to stop chasing shit (504 points, 85 comments)
  8. 9642 points, 16 submissions: Mr_Yukon_C
    1. Winklevoss Brothers Launch Ethereum Token Backed By U.S. Dollars (856 points, 217 comments)
    2. This is what leadership looks like -- I present to you, CFTC Chairman Giancarlo (832 points, 43 comments)
    3. Millennials are afraid stocks are too risky, so they're investing in crypto (790 points, 225 comments)
    4. OmiseGo Becomes the First Ethereum Unicorn With a Market Cap of $1 Billion (762 points, 155 comments)
    5. AMERICANS: Kill bill 1241 • ethereum (693 points, 66 comments)
    6. Coinbase prepares for a monster increase in trading (684 points, 174 comments)
    7. Microsoft – Decentralized Digital Identities and Blockchain – The Future as We See It. [Building on Ethereum] (645 points, 87 comments)
    8. MakerDAO and OmiseGO: Announcing Dai and OMG Collaborations (604 points, 115 comments)
    9. Coinbase Custody is Officially Open For Business – The Coinbase Blog (589 points, 92 comments)
    10. Scaling Ethereum to hundreds to thousands of transactions per second - TODAY! (514 points, 47 comments)
  9. 9445 points, 14 submissions: BeerBellyFatAss
    1. Bitfinex now trades all pairs against ETH. It’s time for Binance and the rest of the exchanges to do so as well. (2255 points, 219 comments)
    2. Number of Users on Coinbase Surpasses Number of Brokerage Accounts at Charles Schwab (825 points, 63 comments)
    3. Omise signed an agreement on the development of a national ID utilizing the ETDA and block chains of Thailand government agencies! We will continue to work on a number of projects that utilize block chains! (789 points, 108 comments)
    4. Elon Musk on Twitter - At this point, I want Eth, even if it is a scam. (660 points, 179 comments)
    5. Austria will use Ethereum to track up to $1.3B in government bonds (636 points, 51 comments)
    6. Federal Reserve Branch Adds Cryptocurrency Price Indexes [Yes, Really] (587 points, 64 comments)
    7. Germany’s Largest Bitcoin Trading Platform Will Soon Add Etheruem (503 points, 46 comments)
    8. Catalonia Considering Cryptocurrency Post-Independence, Advised By Ethereum Creator (501 points, 73 comments)
    9. Olaf Carlson - On Bloomberg Technology (12/01) - Ethereum to Surpass Bitcoin Market Cap by YE 2018 - Great Interview! (481 points, 141 comments)
    10. Casper is Pretty Close, Sharding Number One Priority Says Vitalik Buterin (473 points, 79 comments)
  10. 9363 points, 13 submissions: thepipebomb
    1. CNBC: Why buy Ethereum? (1515 points, 145 comments)
    2. CNBC - "I love Ethereum, I think Ethereum is the one to own here." (1236 points, 158 comments)
    3. CNBC: This is an incredible buying opportunity for Ethereum (984 points, 182 comments)
    4. Please boycott Vinny Lingham's Civic ICO (900 points, 198 comments)
    5. Pantera Capital Quantitative Researcher: By 2020 Ethereum's market cap will be 10x higher than Bitcoin's (749 points, 155 comments)
    6. Amazon Web Services Partners with ConsenSys to Simplify Enterprise Blockchains (693 points, 81 comments)
    7. Sharding may launch with Casper FFG, skipping the 1500 ETH requirement for staking and lowering it to 32 (534 points, 90 comments)
    8. When is $10,000 per ETH realistic? (511 points, 484 comments)
    9. Brian Kelly of CNBC on investing in Ethereum (490 points, 127 comments)
    10. Coinbase plans to add staking (485 points, 114 comments)
  11. 8908 points, 5 submissions: leafac1
    1. Would You Like to See Reddit Accept ETH as a Means to Pay for Gold? (3191 points, 193 comments)
    2. Most Popular Story on CNBC Tech: 'Bitcoin’s main rival Ethereum hits a fresh record high' (2469 points, 181 comments)
    3. Tweeted today: Casper (Proof of Stake) testnet is coming. (2104 points, 230 comments)
    4. Ethereum just processed 0.46% of Visa's total tx per day. And it did so without Ethereum Dapps using scaling solutions. (621 points, 78 comments)
    5. Perspective: It seems many are currently unaware that ETH will have a lower inflation rate than BTC (and BTC-Forks) come Proof of Stake & beyond. (523 points, 134 comments)
  12. 8538 points, 5 submissions: sopun
    1. Stocks VS Crypto (2269 points, 53 comments)
    2. Bitconnect, Davorcoin and other scams continue being advertised on Coinmarketcap. We should take a stand as a community and push out these people who made a career out of scamming innocents (2225 points, 147 comments)
    3. A shitcoin ICO called Prodeum just exitscammed millions of dollars from investors and left them only this message on their ICO website (1549 points, 222 comments)
    4. Trevon James erased 39 of his YouTube videos promoting BitConnect yesterday. Looks like he starts getting worried about the class action lawsuit against him (1365 points, 222 comments)
    5. Tron's TRX whitepaper raises more red flags than a workers parade in Soviet Union (1130 points, 231 comments)
  13. 8132 points, 10 submissions: jtnichol
    1. Let's find the average age of EthTrader! (2191 points, 145 comments)
    2. Joseph Lubin on Twitter: "#Bitcoin = A single app. #Ethereum = An entire app store. Thanks for having me on @BloombergTV, always a pleasure. https://t.co/LXKX8cF8BR" (1212 points, 89 comments)
    3. Microsoft helps launch world’s first blockchain-based investment product: settled on the public Ethereum chain. (933 points, 82 comments)
    4. This room feels like Q4 2016 all over again (776 points, 262 comments)
    5. Massive heap of rhetoric. But it needs to be said. (591 points, 245 comments)
    6. Friday Donut Day. (539 points, 52 comments)
    7. We're rocketing up in subscribers. Wow! (+1,160 subscribers today; 164% trend score) • TrendingReddits (519 points, 58 comments)
    8. Vitalik Buterin on Twitter: Plasma implementations are already happening (484 points, 73 comments)
    9. Unlisted Video Message just for Ethtrader - Thanks for helping someone on Reddit yesterday struggling with life. (474 points, 77 comments)
    10. A Message to EthTrader September 6 2018 - Addressing Suicide comments, Personal Mod approach, sentiment, State of the EthTrader. (413 points, 134 comments)
  14. 7372 points, 5 submissions: EthTrader_Mod
    1. [ETH Daily Discussion] - 22/May/2017 (4032 points, 10407 comments)
    2. Daily Discussion [Serious] - 16/Jun/2017 (1354 points, 4474 comments)
    3. [ETH Daily Discussion] - 28/May/2017 (682 points, 3318 comments)
    4. [ETH Daily Discussion] - 04/Jun/2017 (652 points, 3851 comments)
    5. [ETH Daily Discussion] - 29/May/2017 (652 points, 4600 comments)
  15. 7371 points, 9 submissions: Butta_TRiBot
    1. Vitalik Buterin: If all that we accomplish is lambo memes and immature puns about "sharting", then I WILL leave. (2170 points, 426 comments)
    2. Vitalik Buterin: In my opinion, the current sharding spec as described is already good enough to get us to thousands of transactions per second (1552 points, 188 comments)
    3. Chinese Internet security giant 360 has found "a series of epic vulnerabilities" in the EOS platform. (707 points, 186 comments)
    4. Inflation rate will go down by ~90% with Casper and Sharding (3 ETH block reward -> 0.22ETH) (700 points, 214 comments)
    5. "Casper Testnet up right now and Sharding will come sooner than you think" - Karl Floersch [41:02] (498 points, 44 comments)
    6. Vitalik on Wechat: We have started developing a test version of Ethereum with sharding using python (450 points, 79 comments)
    7. Elon Musk: "Starting a candy company....Cryptocandy" (440 points, 81 comments)
    8. The reason I invested in Ethereum - motivated developers who even spend their free time explaining the tech (429 points, 78 comments)
    9. Congrats to @naterush1997 and @dannyryan for releasing v0.2 of the cbc Casper prototypes, last night! (425 points, 43 comments)
  16. 7087 points, 5 submissions: ScienceGuy9489
    1. New price target $1,000 (2995 points, 503 comments)
    2. I heard you guys miss me, looks like we're only going up from here (2098 points, 645 comments)
    3. Technical Analysis, Liftoff Due June 16th (761 points, 1018 comments)
    4. I predicted the last two liftoffs, the next one is by May 24th. (725 points, 528 comments)
    5. I predicted the last 3 liftoffs, this is a situation update (508 points, 457 comments)
  17. 6217 points, 1 submission: PaulieVideos
    1. Dips are just happy little accidents (6217 points, 212 comments)
  18. 6097 points, 2 submissions: moneyfink
    1. It's one of the biggest moments of your life... what to wear? (5597 points, 485 comments)
    2. Reminder: HODL and don't be like this guy (500 points, 83 comments)
  19. 5431 points, 2 submissions: shadow_op
    1. I'm a longterm hodler, but even i hate this sub sometimes. (4622 points, 283 comments)
    2. One thing (809 points, 102 comments)
  20. 5354 points, 4 submissions: shouldbdan
    1. Every day I check the price when I wake up (3049 points, 105 comments)
    2. Me reading the daily during downtrends (811 points, 77 comments)
    3. A thank you, to everyone working countless hours to solve the scaling problem (756 points, 112 comments)
    4. HODLing Bitcoin vs HODLing Ether (738 points, 70 comments)

Top Commenters

  1. thepipebomb (9690 points, 581 comments)
  2. csasker (8718 points, 845 comments)
  3. jtnichol (8418 points, 716 comments)
  4. DCinvestor (8221 points, 434 comments)
  5. econoar (8037 points, 601 comments)
  6. Nooku (7237 points, 393 comments)
  7. cutsnek (7201 points, 484 comments)
  8. cyoreligion (6644 points, 364 comments)
  9. antiprosynthesis (6266 points, 729 comments)
  10. Libertymark (5610 points, 1070 comments)
  11. oldskool47 (5598 points, 393 comments)
  12. Mr_Yukon_C (5440 points, 411 comments)
  13. loveYouEth (5047 points, 272 comments)
  14. IRefuseToGiveAName (4993 points, 361 comments)
  15. subdep (4926 points, 311 comments)
  16. laughncow (4723 points, 331 comments)
  17. ethacct (4702 points, 305 comments)
  18. dillllllzzzzz (4553 points, 343 comments)
  19. ruvalm (4549 points, 260 comments)
  20. shouldbdan (4422 points, 270 comments)

Top Submissions

  1. Everytime Bitcoin drops by Pracy_ (16394 points, 351 comments)
  2. Here you go by _Mido (9784 points, 312 comments)
  3. Welcome to ethtrader new people, let me save you some time by Justjoshmygosh (7348 points, 366 comments)
  4. Dips are just happy little accidents by PaulieVideos (6217 points, 212 comments)
  5. It's one of the biggest moments of your life... what to wear? by moneyfink (5597 points, 485 comments)
  6. I'm a longterm hodler, but even i hate this sub sometimes. by shadow_op (4622 points, 283 comments)
  7. Literally.. by DAXEEY (4099 points, 162 comments)
  8. [ETH Daily Discussion] - 22/May/2017 by EthTrader_Mod (4032 points, 10407 comments)
  9. Ethereum is UP since last month! Can we get this post to all to show everyone the tides are turning quickly by saintmax (4027 points, 190 comments)
  10. Ethereum is now processing more transactions a day than all other cryptos combined. by econoar (4026 points, 468 comments)

Top Comments

  1. 1711 points: Blactory's comment in Everytime Bitcoin drops
  2. 1351 points: deleted's comment in It's one of the biggest moments of your life... what to wear?
  3. 1297 points: dwy0818's comment in Been in a coma for 23 days, about to check my portfolio
  4. 1168 points: Butterfly_Lags's comment in New price target $1,000
  5. 1108 points: mikewirkijowski's comment in Here you go
  6. 1055 points: phigo50's comment in My wife just talked me out of selling $10,000 eth
  7. 959 points: PcChip's comment in Vitalik Buterin: If all that we accomplish is lambo memes and immature puns about "sharting", then I WILL leave.
  8. 869 points: deleted's comment in Ethereum is UP since last month! Can we get this post to all to show everyone the tides are turning quickly
  9. 835 points: BroKing's comment in It's one of the biggest moments of your life... what to wear?
  10. 831 points: khalo_'s comment in Welcome to ethtrader new people, let me save you some time
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Subreddit Stats: ethtrader top posts from 2016-12-11 to 2018-03-28 14:09 PDT

Period: 472.46 days
Submissions Comments
Total 995 184897
Rate (per day) 2.11 391.02
Unique Redditors 592 22569
Combined Score 787834 1865594

Top Submitters' Top Submissions

  1. 44976 points, 68 submissions: AutoModerator
    1. [ETH Daily Discussion] - 14/Jun/2017 (2926 points, 8485 comments)
    2. [ETH Daily Discussion] - 15/Jun/2017 (1960 points, 8597 comments)
    3. [ETH Daily Discussion] - 13/Jun/2017 (1764 points, 5212 comments)
    4. [ETH Daily Discussion] - 12/Jun/2017 (1358 points, 12903 comments)
    5. [ETH Daily Discussion] - 24/May/2017 (1345 points, 9454 comments)
    6. [ETH Daily Discussion] - 23/May/2017 (1241 points, 6398 comments)
    7. [ETH Daily Discussion] - 30/May/2017 (1141 points, 9056 comments)
    8. [ETH Daily Discussion] - 25/May/2017 (1019 points, 8164 comments)
    9. [ETH Daily Discussion] - 10/Jun/2017 (1001 points, 7984 comments)
    10. Daily Discussion [Serious] - 17/Jun/2017 (910 points, 2930 comments)
  2. 16379 points, 1 submission: Pracy_
    1. Everytime Bitcoin drops (16379 points, 358 comments)
  3. 11940 points, 4 submissions: Justjoshmygosh
    1. Welcome to ethtrader new people, let me save you some time (7350 points, 369 comments)
    2. This is NOT the end (2076 points, 197 comments)
    3. Welcome BACK to ethtrader (1969 points, 112 comments)
    4. Hello again, ethtrader... looks like I have some work to do (545 points, 10 comments)
  4. 11915 points, 2 submissions: _Mido
    1. Here you go (9778 points, 318 comments)
    2. How I felt this week (2137 points, 232 comments)
  5. 8919 points, 5 submissions: leafac1
    1. Would You Like to See Reddit Accept ETH as a Means to Pay for Gold? (3187 points, 196 comments)
    2. Most Popular Story on CNBC Tech: 'Bitcoin’s main rival Ethereum hits a fresh record high' (2476 points, 181 comments)
    3. Tweeted today: Casper (Proof of Stake) testnet is coming. (2106 points, 232 comments)
    4. Ethereum just processed 0.46% of Visa's total tx per day. And it did so without Ethereum Dapps using scaling solutions. (625 points, 78 comments)
    5. Perspective: It seems many are currently unaware that ETH will have a lower inflation rate than BTC (and BTC-Forks) come Proof of Stake & beyond. (525 points, 136 comments)
  6. 8899 points, 6 submissions: sopun
    1. Stocks VS Crypto (2259 points, 53 comments)
    2. Bitconnect, Davorcoin and other scams continue being advertised on Coinmarketcap. We should take a stand as a community and push out these people who made a career out of scamming innocents (2228 points, 149 comments)
    3. A shitcoin ICO called Prodeum just exitscammed millions of dollars from investors and left them only this message on their ICO website (1543 points, 200 comments)
    4. Trevon James erased 39 of his YouTube videos promoting BitConnect yesterday. Looks like he starts getting worried about the class action lawsuit against him (1364 points, 223 comments)
    5. Tron's TRX whitepaper raises more red flags than a workers parade in Soviet Union (1124 points, 235 comments)
    6. Charlie Lee retweet: "Wow! How absurd! Tron whitepaper is mostly stolen copy & paste!" (381 points, 109 comments)
  7. 8699 points, 7 submissions: econoar
    1. Ethereum is now processing more transactions a day than all other cryptos combined. (4027 points, 476 comments)
    2. Today, Ethereum has processed 50% more txs than BTC. Ethereum currently has 17 pending TX and BTC has 45k. It takes $0.006 to move Ether in less than 20 seconds. (1411 points, 282 comments)
    3. Visa, IBM, Microsoft and USAA have all posted jobs in the past week looking for Ethereum developers (865 points, 47 comments)
    4. Goldman-Backed Startup Circle Launches No-Fee Foreign Payments Service. Built on Ethereum. (852 points, 86 comments)
    5. Etheremon is completely centralized and the owners can withdrawal all the funds from the contract. (665 points, 387 comments)
    6. On average, it's 59x cheaper to send an Ethereum transaction than a Bitcoin transaction. (484 points, 31 comments)
    7. Ethereum dapps expected to launch very soon. (395 points, 131 comments)
  8. 7472 points, 12 submissions: DCinvestor
    1. Personal Finance Rules for Being an Effective Holder (1303 points, 238 comments)
    2. Will Proof of Stake turn ETH into the best Store of Value coin? (1074 points, 142 comments)
    3. What can the earlier days of Bitcoin teach us about holding Ethereum? (626 points, 152 comments)
    4. How to Survive Crypto Investing (in this market, or in any market) (614 points, 121 comments)
    5. The Most Important Crypto Theses for 2018 (and my current feelings on this market) (604 points, 323 comments)
    6. A Re-evaluation of Ethereum as Long Term Investment (versus new market entrants) (593 points, 136 comments)
    7. It's time for investors to pursue quality, and to stop chasing shit (505 points, 89 comments)
    8. Coinbase is trending #1 on the Apple App Store (504 points, 39 comments)
    9. Switching from BTC to ETH (445 points, 219 comments)
    10. Is Ethereum Dead? Ask the Developers, not the Traders (424 points, 120 comments)
  9. 7445 points, 6 submissions: ScienceGuy9489
    1. New price target $1,000 (2996 points, 504 comments)
    2. I heard you guys miss me, looks like we're only going up from here (2102 points, 652 comments)
    3. Technical Analysis, Liftoff Due June 16th (755 points, 1034 comments)
    4. I predicted the last two liftoffs, the next one is by May 24th. (727 points, 534 comments)
    5. I predicted the last 3 liftoffs, this is a situation update (504 points, 460 comments)
    6. I predicted the last 3 lifts offs, the next one is by May 29th (361 points, 470 comments)
  10. 7410 points, 11 submissions: BeerBellyFatAss
    1. Bitfinex now trades all pairs against ETH. It’s time for Binance and the rest of the exchanges to do so as well. (2257 points, 220 comments)
    2. Number of Users on Coinbase Surpasses Number of Brokerage Accounts at Charles Schwab (822 points, 63 comments)
    3. Omise signed an agreement on the development of a national ID utilizing the ETDA and block chains of Thailand government agencies! We will continue to work on a number of projects that utilize block chains! (789 points, 113 comments)
    4. Catalonia Considering Cryptocurrency Post-Independence, Advised By Ethereum Creator (507 points, 74 comments)
    5. Germany’s Largest Bitcoin Trading Platform Will Soon Add Etheruem (499 points, 46 comments)
    6. Olaf Carlson - On Bloomberg Technology (12/01) - Ethereum to Surpass Bitcoin Market Cap by YE 2018 - Great Interview! (483 points, 150 comments)
    7. Casper is Pretty Close, Sharding Number One Priority Says Vitalik Buterin (467 points, 79 comments)
    8. "Ethereum, which I think just touched $500 or is getting close, could be triple where it is as well" - Michael Novogratz (446 points, 106 comments)
    9. Ethereum was a safe haven from yesterday's cryptocurrency sell-off — and not for the first time (416 points, 45 comments)
    10. GOLDMAN: 'It's getting harder for institutional investors to ignore cryptocurrencies' (372 points, 35 comments)
  11. 7378 points, 5 submissions: EthTrader_Mod
    1. [ETH Daily Discussion] - 22/May/2017 (4029 points, 10547 comments)
    2. Daily Discussion [Serious] - 16/Jun/2017 (1359 points, 4550 comments)
    3. [ETH Daily Discussion] - 28/May/2017 (684 points, 3361 comments)
    4. [ETH Daily Discussion] - 04/Jun/2017 (654 points, 3894 comments)
    5. [ETH Daily Discussion] - 29/May/2017 (652 points, 4675 comments)
  12. 7075 points, 13 submissions: Mr_Yukon_C
    1. This is what leadership looks like -- I present to you, CFTC Chairman Giancarlo (831 points, 45 comments)
    2. Millennials are afraid stocks are too risky, so they're investing in crypto (787 points, 240 comments)
    3. OmiseGo Becomes the First Ethereum Unicorn With a Market Cap of $1 Billion (760 points, 157 comments)
    4. AMERICANS: Kill bill 1241 • ethereum (697 points, 66 comments)
    5. Microsoft – Decentralized Digital Identities and Blockchain – The Future as We See It. [Building on Ethereum] (643 points, 87 comments)
    6. Scaling Ethereum to hundreds to thousands of transactions per second - TODAY! (513 points, 47 comments)
    7. Brian Armstrong (Coinbase CEO): "Bitcoin still has a black mark against it if you look at what big banks or more traditional folks in law enforcement think. Ethereum has a blank slate, and that is a chance to reach a mainstream audience." (471 points, 121 comments)
    8. Joseph Lubin: 5.6bil requests a day for @infura_io, >280k downloads for @trufflesuite, and a jaw-dropping 1 million installs for @metamask_io (455 points, 83 comments)
    9. Alpha Casper FFG Testnet Instructions - HUGE! (420 points, 54 comments)
    10. The 0x team donated ~$12,000 to Etherscan and ~$22,000 to MyEtherWallet (399 points, 28 comments)
  13. 6809 points, 8 submissions: thepipebomb
    1. CNBC: Why buy Ethereum? (1519 points, 146 comments)
    2. CNBC - "I love Ethereum, I think Ethereum is the one to own here." (1240 points, 158 comments)
    3. CNBC: This is an incredible buying opportunity for Ethereum (989 points, 181 comments)
    4. Please boycott Vinny Lingham's Civic ICO (896 points, 200 comments)
    5. Pantera Capital Quantitative Researcher: By 2020 Ethereum's market cap will be 10x higher than Bitcoin's (745 points, 155 comments)
    6. When is $10,000 per ETH realistic? (504 points, 491 comments)
    7. Brian Kelly of CNBC on investing in Ethereum (496 points, 131 comments)
    8. Kevin O'Leary: NYC hotel wants to use a $400 million cryptocoin offering to sell ownership like a stock (420 points, 135 comments)
  14. 6621 points, 11 submissions: jtnichol
    1. Joseph Lubin on Twitter: "#Bitcoin = A single app. #Ethereum = An entire app store. Thanks for having me on @BloombergTV, always a pleasure. https://t.co/LXKX8cF8BR" (1209 points, 89 comments)
    2. Microsoft helps launch world’s first blockchain-based investment product: settled on the public Ethereum chain. (923 points, 84 comments)
    3. This room feels like Q4 2016 all over again (768 points, 264 comments)
    4. Massive heap of rhetoric. But it needs to be said. (544 points, 239 comments)
    5. Friday Donut Day. (535 points, 53 comments)
    6. We're rocketing up in subscribers. Wow! (+1,160 subscribers today; 164% trend score) • TrendingReddits (519 points, 58 comments)
    7. Vitalik Buterin on Twitter: Plasma implementations are already happening (490 points, 77 comments)
    8. Unlisted Video Message just for Ethtrader - Thanks for helping someone on Reddit yesterday struggling with life. (475 points, 80 comments)
    9. For all the drama lately I've made you some comfort food. I love you Ethtrader. Whale sized BLT's with a quart of Bloody Mary. (390 points, 87 comments)
    10. Vitalik Buterin on Twitter: "Scalability research and development subsidy programs: https://t.co/PwbkdUHbZS" (387 points, 40 comments)
  15. 6224 points, 7 submissions: Butta_TRiBot
    1. Vitalik Buterin: If all that we accomplish is lambo memes and immature puns about "sharting", then I WILL leave. (2170 points, 434 comments)
    2. Vitalik Buterin: In my opinion, the current sharding spec as described is already good enough to get us to thousands of transactions per second (1549 points, 191 comments)
    3. Inflation rate will go down by ~90% with Casper and Sharding (3 ETH block reward -> 0.22ETH) (694 points, 217 comments)
    4. "Casper Testnet up right now and Sharding will come sooner than you think" - Karl Floersch [41:02] (507 points, 45 comments)
    5. Vitalik on Wechat: We have started developing a test version of Ethereum with sharding using python (447 points, 79 comments)
    6. The reason I invested in Ethereum - motivated developers who even spend their free time explaining the tech (433 points, 79 comments)
    7. Congrats to @naterush1997 and @dannyryan for releasing v0.2 of the cbc Casper prototypes, last night! (424 points, 43 comments)
  16. 6206 points, 1 submission: PaulieVideos
    1. Dips are just happy little accidents (6206 points, 214 comments)
  17. 6106 points, 2 submissions: moneyfink
    1. It's one of the biggest moments of your life... what to wear? (5607 points, 487 comments)
    2. Reminder: HODL and don't be like this guy (499 points, 84 comments)
  18. 5355 points, 4 submissions: shouldbdan
    1. Every day I check the price when I wake up (3047 points, 105 comments)
    2. Me reading the daily during downtrends (810 points, 78 comments)
    3. A thank you, to everyone working countless hours to solve the scaling problem (758 points, 112 comments)
    4. HODLing Bitcoin vs HODLing Ether (740 points, 70 comments)
  19. 5075 points, 4 submissions: antiprosynthesis
    1. ETH price has just entered the bottom of a new channel. Next level of resistance well over $2,000. (2055 points, 493 comments)
    2. The Ethereum blockchain now processes about as much USD value as all other blockchains combined, including Bitcoin. (1296 points, 135 comments)
    3. ETH price in one year: between $700 and $14,000, averaging around $3,500. (1056 points, 543 comments)
    4. Legally Binding Smart Contracts? 9 Law Firms Join Enterprise Ethereum Alliance (668 points, 122 comments)
  20. 4617 points, 1 submission: shadow_op
    1. I'm a longterm hodler, but even i hate this sub sometimes. (4617 points, 292 comments)
  21. 4602 points, 6 submissions: brantlymillegan
    1. Seinfeld gives trading advice in a bear market (1142 points, 94 comments)
    2. Let's be honest, this is most of us here on /ethtrader... (1106 points, 63 comments)
    3. The Flippening is back on: 51.9% ETH/BTC mk ratio and climbing! (1024 points, 141 comments)
    4. The most popular trade on ShapeShift right now is BCH to ETH (519 points, 52 comments)
    5. Jerry & George give /ethtrader advice to traditional traders (434 points, 58 comments)
    6. The most popular trade on ShapeShift right now is BTC -> ETH (377 points, 43 comments)
  22. 4558 points, 5 submissions: CallMeGWei
    1. Ethereum's µRaiden - Bitcoin is Falling Behind (1206 points, 191 comments)
    2. Crypto: The Wrong Bubble? (1162 points, 484 comments)
    3. ICOs: Avoid The Lemons (849 points, 69 comments)
    4. Vitalik Buterin: To be clear, the operative word here is "all". No, I won't stop or slow working on crypto just because price memes and stupid jokes exist... (751 points, 88 comments)
    5. CryptoKitties slows Ethereum down... temporarily... (590 points, 75 comments)
  23. 4395 points, 5 submissions: jonesyjonesy
    1. Upvote if you think ethtrader should create a community rating service for ICOs (1931 points, 173 comments)
    2. Only a matter of time before people wake up and realize the gravity of Circle acquisition. Leaked photo reveals Poloniex is now 1) ATS certified and 2) the first ever US regulated crypto exchange. Amazing milestone for crypto's quest towards regulatory acceptance (819 points, 164 comments)
    3. Hey guess what? Gox caused the 2018 crash. Here's how. (693 points, 240 comments)
    4. EthTrader's reaction when they see ScienceGuy is back posting liftoff predictions (529 points, 48 comments)
    5. To anyone who is doubting EOS is offloading their ETH for fiat (423 points, 297 comments)
  24. 4321 points, 3 submissions: c0mm0ns3ns3
    1. UPVOTE if you're sick of KRAKEN's performance! (3011 points, 369 comments)
    2. How about we get Vitalik NOT on Joe Rogan etc. and leave him alone (762 points, 74 comments)
    3. Dear Exchanges, it's time to unpair everything from Bitcoin! (548 points, 138 comments)
  25. 4102 points, 1 submission: DAXEEY
    1. Literally.. (4102 points, 164 comments)
  26. 4027 points, 1 submission: saintmax
    1. Ethereum is UP since last month! Can we get this post to all to show everyone the tides are turning quickly (4027 points, 194 comments)
  27. 3903 points, 3 submissions: PhiStr90
    1. Enterprise Ethereum Alliance Becomes World’s Largest Open-source Blockchain Initiative (2690 points, 312 comments)
    2. Hewlett Packard Enterprise and 47 Organizations Join 200-Member Strong Enterprise Ethereum Alliance (846 points, 113 comments)
    3. Ethereum is now for the first time the blockchain with highest mining incentive or simply put 'the most secured' (367 points, 52 comments)
  28. 3811 points, 3 submissions: onenessup
    1. "If you are new to #blockchain (s) and you wonder which of the top 100 from coinmarketcap will win - you should realize that 43 of those 'coins' are ON the Ethereum blockchain." (2557 points, 167 comments)
    2. Casper (Proof of Stake) Code was Published Today by Vlad Zamfir (899 points, 249 comments)
    3. Germany's Largest Crypto Exchange To Begin ETH/EUR Trading (355 points, 36 comments)
  29. 3772 points, 3 submissions: Jimmyl101
    1. TWICE IN THE SAME DAY??? (2179 points, 151 comments)
    2. HE'S BACK (1102 points, 71 comments)
    3. Please consider posting more memes. (491 points, 68 comments)
  30. 3743 points, 3 submissions: Hiphopsince1988
    1. Ethereum & the Hodlors that love them (2420 points, 282 comments)
    2. Metcalfs Law has 97% Correlation to ETHUSD Since 2015. Puts ETH value at $8,000 (960 points, 213 comments)
    3. Tweet: Bank of America Demo using its Ethereum app at Microsoft (363 points, 48 comments)
  31. 3677 points, 6 submissions: barthib
    1. Updated fact list: why Ethereum will be the most successful blockchain network (1028 points, 229 comments)
    2. The Ethereum Foundation just released an impressive list of 2017 achievements and work to flourish in 2018 (802 points, 30 comments)
    3. Overstock lets customers pay with more than 40 cryptocurrencies, including ETH (672 points, 111 comments)
    4. At the end of the year, the first official European investment fund in cryptocurrencies launches (ETH, BTC, LTC, ...) (423 points, 49 comments)
    5. Today is important in the History of cryptocurrencies. Miners earn now more money by securing Ethereum than Bitcoin. (378 points, 42 comments)
    6. Chairman of Fair Trade Commission of South Korea: Whether cryptocurrency investment is excessive speculation or not, the risk is on the investor, and thus the government should not outright ban economic activity because it is risky. That's for the individual investors to decide. (374 points, 20 comments)
  32. 3600 points, 1 submission: GHOSThit
    1. It happened! $1234.56! (3600 points, 147 comments)

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  1. csasker (9957 points, 970 comments)
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crypto world - Vinny Lingham Vinny Lingham's Bitcoin hard fork warning, RogerCoin boycott, #SupportSegwit, $100 Dash, Steemit Must watch people of Bitcoin: Vinny Lingham Vinny Lingham - Bullish for Bitcoin, bearish for altcoins Vinny Lingham on Bitcoin

Civic CEO Vinny Lingham forecast the Bitcoin price to remain below $5000 for at least three to six months this week as sentiment throughout the industry Bitcoin price will remain under $5000, said Civic CEO, Vinny Lingham, who expects at least three to six more months of 'crypto winter.' Four years ago, Vinny Lingham predicted bitcoin’s bull run and a number of bitcoiners have referred to him as the “oracle.” On Twitter, Lingham is once again giving his predictions on ... Bitcoin, mostly the catalyst to the falling prices, currently trades at $3,665.23 across major exchanges, representing a 10% drop in price in the past 24 hours. The drop will however not stop here according to Vinny who expects a further drop in price towards the $3,000 region in the coming months. Speaking to Cheddar vlog, Lingham said, Four years ago, Vinny Lingham predicted bitcoin’s bull run and a number of bitcoiners have referred to him as the “oracle.” On Twitter, Lingham is once again giving his predictions on bitcoin’s future prices. He’s also noted this month that he’s “bullish on bitcoin” and hasn’t felt this way since 2016. Four years ago, Vinny Lingham predicted bitcoin’s bull run and a number of bitcoiners have referred to him as the “oracle.” On Twitter, Lingham is once again giving his predictions on bitcoin’s future ‘Oracle’ Vinny Lingham Expects High Bitcoin Volatility, BTC Price Likely to Hold $12K Handle for 30 Days

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Vinny Lingham on Bitcoin. Learn all about the world of fintech and get certified with Rise, created by Barclays at https://www.42courses.com/courses/barclays... Vinny Lingham's realistic approach to Bitcoin is something we can all learn from. Patience is a virtue. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZzI7DlaYdk https://w... Bitcoin is a cryptocurrency and worldwide payment system. It is the first decentralized digital currency, as the system works without a central bank or single administrator.The network is peer-to ... What's the significance of Bitcoin? Is it money or does it mean something larger for our lives? Vinny Lingham, Gyft CEO, explains the history of money, how to scale trust and the underlying ... Deze week in The Bitcoin Report een interview met ondernemer, dragon, shark en Bitcoin fanaat Vinny Lingham. We spreken over zijn investeringen, ethereum, altcoins en de toekomst van Bitcoin.

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